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    Yeah the "ALL ENGLISH UMPIRES ARE INCOMPETENT SHOOT THEM" sentiment in the OP is utterly ridiculous, even if he is right to point out that Llong ****ed up (I've changed my mind on that one, ftr; originally thought it was a failure of process and then they confirmed that Llong ****ed up the process too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Yeah the "ALL ENGLISH UMPIRES ARE INCOMPETENT SHOOT THEM" sentiment in the OP is utterly ridiculous, even if he is right to point out that Llong ****ed up (I've changed my mind on that one, ftr; originally thought it was a failure of process and then they confirmed that Llong ****ed up the process too)
    Thank god. Your position on that was extremely frustrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    I don't really disagree with any of that. Never really disagreed with anything you said before either, just making a statement.

    Sometimes when umpires **** up and people have a go on them it's harsh, other times it's well deserved. I'm not going to feel sorry for Nigel Llong being decimated by fans for an incompetent decision because it was well deserved. Hopefully he learns from it helps him avoid such **** ups in the future.
    Yeah I think there's a big distinction between "Llong made a ****ing **** decision" and "Llong is a ****ing **** umpire". Dan was IMO too keen in denying the former to argue against the latter, while a lot of other people are too keen in suggesting that the former confirms the latter.
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    Thank god. Your position on that was extremely frustrating.
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    I also tend to think TV umpiring and standing umpiring are actually entirely different skills, and that it's unlikely the best people for each job are actually the same people. We should be able to find specialist TV umpires eventually who are really good at analysing video and learning ICC directives. Standing umpiring is much more about concentration and eyesight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I also tend to think TV umpiring and standing umpiring are actually entirely different skills, and that it's unlikely the best people for each job are actually the same people. We should be able to find specialist TV umpires eventually who are really good at analysing video and learning ICC directives. Standing umpiring is much more about concentration and eyesight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I also tend to think TV umpiring and standing umpiring are actually entirely different skills, and that it's unlikely the best people for each job are actually the same people. We should be able to find specialist TV umpires eventually who are really good at analysing video and learning ICC directives. Standing umpiring is much more about concentration and eyesight.
    Surely it can't be that difficult
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Anything to get you out of the thread tbh.
    I don't think I'd be very good at it tbh.

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    I was surprised the video umps don't control the replays and they have to give instructions to someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Surely it can't be that difficult
    You think this, but there are three guarantees in life: death, taxes and middle aged people being utterly inept at using technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Surely it can't be that difficult
    I think we're seeing evidence that it's a specialist skill tbh, especially given what RTB brought up. Some people are better at learning how to apply technicalities than others, some people are better at video analysis than others and obviously not everyone is actually proficient at cycling through the different camera angles. It really should be a specialist job IMO. I don't really think there's reason to believe there'd be lots of overlap between who the best standing umpires in the world would be and who the best TV umpires in the world would be.

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    Those who are seeing there is a 'conspiracy' that Indian umpires (inter alia) are under-represented in the ICC panel should've seen yesterday's SL-India match umpiring.

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