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Daemon

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Yeah it's not about picking the two best openers of all time, you're picking a team. There's plenty of cake in the batting order which means Gilchrist or even Jayasuriya are good fits.
 

Anil

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Yeah it's not about picking the two best openers of all time, you're picking a team. There's plenty of cake in the batting order which means Gilchrist or even Jayasuriya are good fits.
yeah actually it is...otherwise you might as well pick the aussie sides of the 90s or the windies sides of the late 70s and 80s and be done with it...why mix and match with players from other countries if you aren't going to pick the best players at each position...this is a hypothetical side combining the greatest players of several different eras, what would be the point of adding an average (compared to the best of the best) player in a position he has failed at more often than not with the logic that the rest of the team can carry him...?
 

TheJediBrah

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Gilchrist needs to be out of an AT ODI XI. Dhoni provides more value.
everyone's entitled to their own opinion, even if it's stupid

yeah actually it is...otherwise you might as well pick the aussie sides of the 90s or the windies sides of the late 70s and 80s and be done with it...why mix and match with players from other countries if you aren't going to pick the best players at each position...this is a hypothetical side combining the greatest players of several different eras, what would be the point of adding an average (compared to the best of the best) player in a position he has failed at more often than not with the logic that the rest of the team can carry him...?
well that's a different question entirely. You're saying an "ATG XI" should be just the "best" XI players, rather than the team that's going to win the most games.
 
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No way...Gilchrist was just too inconsistent as a batsman to warrant admission into an all-time xi especially as a one day opener...one whirlwind innings every 10-15 or however many matches doesn't cut it...
He wasn't the most consistent, but invariably was the man for the big occasion. His record in big ODI finals etc. was outstanding. Dhoni is better overall in ODIs, but not by such a huge margin.
 

Stace

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probably more to do with the fact that he was in the form of his life when he was batting at 5, not he was just a lot better because he was batting at 5
Nope, he batted there on and off from 2002-2008 and in this time frame he was moved to other positions often without success, so if it was at a time he was at his peak why didn't he gun it in the other positions?
 

marc71178

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probably more to do with the fact that he was in the form of his life when he was batting at 5, not he was just a lot better because he was batting at 5
So it's all just coincidence that he went from being mediocre down the order to top class right from the first innings he batted at 5 then.
 

TheJediBrah

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Nope, he batted there on and off from 2002-2008 and in this time frame he was moved to other positions often without success, so if it was at a time he was at his peak why didn't he gun it in the other positions?
So it's all just coincidence that he went from being mediocre down the order to top class right from the first innings he batted at 5 then.
lol come on seriously guys? Obviously a mixture of him being a better batsman in the period of his career when he was at 5 (shocking!) and having more of an opportunity to build an innings/less likely to throw away wicket late down the order.

You can't honestly be telling me that he was somehow magically a completely different player at the mystical "no. 5" just because it was that magical place in the batting order. It's not rocket science.
 
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weldone

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He wasn't the most consistent, but invariably was the man for the big occasion. His record in big ODI finals etc. was outstanding. Dhoni is better overall in ODIs, but not by such a huge margin.
as if Dhoni didn't help us win a WC final !
 

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