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    First Name on the Team Sheet

    A thread where you think back as far as you can remember, decide who was the most important player your side had, who was being the guy you bank on to win you the game. Then decide when the mantle passed to someone else, and so on.

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    Usually the captain gets his name first



    but:

    2008-2013 = Clarke
    2013-2014 = Johnson
    2014-2015 = Smith
    2016-2030 = Voges
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    New Zealand

    early 80s: Hadlee
    late 80s, early 90s: Crowe
    mid 90s: Cairns
    late 90s, early 00s: Bond
    mid 00s: Richardson
    late 00s: Taylor
    mid 10s: Williamson

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post
    New Zealand

    early 80s: Hadlee
    late 80s, early 90s: Crowe
    mid 90s: Cairns
    late 90s, early 00s: Bond
    mid 00s: Richardson
    late 00s: Taylor
    mid 10s: Williamson
    Don't think this is accurate as all. also Bond debuted in 2001.
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    Williamson wasn't really the first name on the team sheet until 2015 right? McCullum had his doubles in 2014 and Taylor and Kane wasn't that awesome before that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Williamson wasn't really the first name on the team sheet until 2015 right? McCullum had his doubles in 2014 and Taylor and Kane wasn't that awesome before that.
    Yeah definitely.

    You'd also probably say something more like

    2006 - Shane Bond
    2007-2011 - Daniel Vettori
    2012-13/14 - Tim Southee
    13/14-14/15 - Trent Boult
    2015-present - Big Daddy Kane

    As significant as players like McCullum and Taylor have been over this period, Vettori's allround presence was greater, and then our real Test momentum came when Southee and Boult began to blossom. I would say to their credit Taylor and McCullum have probably been in the top 3-4 names on the team sheet consistently for almost the last ten years, but in Tests they've never been the first on there.
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    I don't think I'd have had Southee as first name on the team sheet at any point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I don't think I'd have had Southee as first name on the team sheet at any point.

    On that fateful 2012 tour to SL, Southee actually stepped up and lead our attack with some excellent support in Boult. With a slightly undercooked Williamson, the drama and patches of poor form for Baz and Taylor, who else was there?

    2012-2014 Southee took 94 wickets @ 24.71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Yeah definitely.

    You'd also probably say something more like

    2006 - Shane Bond
    2007-2011 - Daniel Vettori
    2012-13/14 - Tim Southee
    13/14-14/15 - Trent Boult
    2015-present - Big Daddy Kane

    As significant as players like McCullum and Taylor have been over this period, Vettori's allround presence was greater, and then our real Test momentum came when Southee and Boult began to blossom. I would say to their credit Taylor and McCullum have probably been in the top 3-4 names on the team sheet consistently for almost the last ten years, but in Tests they've never been the first on there.
    There was probably a period where McCullum's utility as keeper/batsman made him our MVP.
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    NZ

    1990-1995: Crowe
    1996-2002: Cairns
    2002-2007: Bond
    2007-2008: Fleming
    2008-2011: Vettori
    2011-2012: Taylor
    2013-2014: Southee
    2014-2025: Williamson
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    There was probably a period where McCullum's utility as keeper/batsman made him our MVP.
    Yeah I'm finding it hard to quite pinpoint it though. Vettori's value was so high that I can't quite place when McCullum felt more valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    NZ

    1990-1995: Crowe
    1996-2002: Cairns
    2002-2007: Bond
    2007-2008: Fleming
    2008-2011: Vettori
    2011-2012: Taylor
    2013-2014: Southee
    2014-2025: Williamson
    Bond was a tricky one as well, 2003 and 2006 definitely but he hardly played any Tests outside of those years. #alwaysinjured

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    Gonna go backwards with Australia without looking at dates….

    Smith
    Warner
    Johnson/Clarke
    Hussey
    Gilchrist
    Warne/McGrath/Ponting
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    For India it was Sachin for the longest time, with Viru/Dravid/VVS having their moments during Sachin's injury and form slump.

    Then it was MSD for a short while, and now I guess its Kohli.


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    90s-2002: Sachin
    2002-2007: Dravid
    2008-2011: Sehwag/Zaheer (although basically the whole top 6 was on fire)
    2011- Present: Kohli/Ashwin/Rahane
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