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    One day international cricket 50 over format

    If you had the power and you worked for the icc what would you do to spring some life in to this cricket format, maybe bring back the super sub option or something what you think.

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    If I wanted to "fix" ODI cricket I'd stop playing international T20s.

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    I think they're fine the way they are tbh. I do occasionally get bored during the accumulation stage of the innings and this is probably a direct result of having been too exposed to T20 slogging, but oh well. I like a good hard fought run a ball 150 from a batsman, still going at a quicker rate than in a test. It's that weird no-man's land area though, we expect something totally different from a test innings to a T20 innings, and the desire to balance the two things out in ODI leaves a lot of room for criticism. I'm talking nonsense now I should go to bed, but -


    It's so weird India has gotten three scores around 300 and they're being criticised for batting too slow. How times change
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    I really like the rules as they are now. I'd like to see pitches with a bit more in them for bowlers to make ODIs a little more like short Tests and a little less like long T20Is, but that's not something the ICC really has power to do via rule changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I really like the rules as they are now. I'd like to see pitches with a bit more in them for bowlers to make ODIs a little more like short Tests and a little less like long T20Is, but that's not something the ICC really has power to do via rule changes.
    How about using a red ball for day games, or allowing bowlers to have more than 10 overs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    How about using a red ball for day games, or allowing bowlers to have more than 10 overs?
    Nah, this has all been tried. I mean, we even had super subs for **** sakes.

    The biggest problem facing ODI cricket is soon there will be a generation of Indians who have grown up always having t20s who won't give a **** about statistics. The only reason ODI cricket lasted so long was because it was lucrative on the subcontinent.

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    The biggest thing to put life into this format is to stop playing meaningless ODI series like the current Ind Aus and Pak NZ and other awful bilateral fixtures. Just keep it to multi team tournament with at least 5 teams being part of the tournament. None of those 3 team Sharjah tournaments anymore
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    Let's make all teams have to qualify for the World Cup, with meaningless bilaterals replaced with qualifiers and regional tournaments. If that means you don't have teams playing 20+ games per year, then GOOD!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    How about using a red ball for day games, or allowing bowlers to have more than 10 overs?
    I've never been fond of the latter because I think it'll just lead to more batsmen being selected and teams launching earlier with their deep batting lineups, with the same allrounders filling in the middle overs.. and like Cabinet, one of my favourite parts of ODI cricket is actually the team balance aspect. I don't think it all has to be about maximising the quality of Batsman X v Bowler Y contests.

    I'm open to experiments with the ball, though. Having a white ball from each end probably isn't ideal, but I will say that I like it a lot more than the compulsory change to a reconditioned old ball we had for a while. Changing to an old ball seemed ridiculously contrived to me.
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    There are a lot of things we can do to infuse life in the format, some short term, some long term.

    In the short term, and this needs immediate attention, the game has lost the balance between bat and ball in most conditions.

    I don't expect the white ball to seam around like a red ball on a green top but there bowlers really need something to rely upon.

    Seamers need movement of some kind in the middle overs to pick up wickets and two new balls has effectively killed reverse.

    Spinners need some turn or bite from the pitch and that's why if we are to have roads, we need roads more like the SC ones which offer some turn at least.

    Otherwise right now we have just bowlers bowling straight and getting hammered, there is no deviation whatsoever and it's just too easy and predictable to hit them around.

    At most you can vary with your length and pace a little bit but that's it. This is just not enough to have a balance.
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    more sporting pitches

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    the super sub idea was good, though was ****ed up due to teams having to be finalised before the toss. It would have worked fine if you could specify the supersub after the toss had been made. So if you've got a weak bowling attack you have an extra bowler in your 12. If you bowl first then you make a batsman a supersub. if batting first then the extra bowler is the supersub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMurali View Post
    the super sub idea was good, though was ****ed up due to teams having to be finalised before the toss. It would have worked fine if you could specify the supersub after the toss had been made. So if you've got a weak bowling attack you have an extra bowler in your 12. If you bowl first then you make a batsman a supersub. if batting first then the extra bowler is the supersub.
    Nah that would completely defeat the purpose of having a super-sub. It was about tactical use, you could play it safe and pick an all-rounder or risk it by picking a specialist.

    If you choose a super sub after the toss then you're effectively just saying each team has 12 players and the whole "super sub" aspect is irrelevant

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    i think one useful thing could be investing in white ball technology that allows the ball to last the whole 50 overs

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    I think ODIs are perfectly fine as they are tbh.

    The reason I get bored of them is because most of the matches hold no meaning. Any non-World Cup/Champions Trophy ODI cricket is either used to try out players/strategies in the lead up to those events, or as a means to blooding new Test prospects into International cricket. Marquee players are rested, the cricket is low intensity, and sides often play sub-optimal combinations because the priority is giving certain players game time.

    If ODI cricket was restructured to give these JAMODIs some purpose (maybe use the ODI rankings in order to seed sides for the World Cup), then I would find them a lot more interesting. I think sides would take them more seriously too.
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