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The normal awards that everyone else has
"specifically not mentioning that they should"?People bringing ODI's into discussion when the OP specifically not mentioning that they should
What does that even mean?
"specifically not mentioning that they should"?People bringing ODI's into discussion when the OP specifically not mentioning that they should
There are a fair few quicks you could argue are roughly the equal of Marshall though.Sure, I'd almost buy that re: McGrath. But there must be at least 20 batsman who you could make a reasonable argument for being equal or better than Viv.
You can argue it but you wouldn't win the argument with me.There are a fair few quicks you could argue are roughly the equal of Marshall though.
Hadlee, Ambrose, Holding, Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Lillee, McGrath, Trueman, Steyn, Donald….
If Tendulkar is there Kallis/Ponting have to be then.Don't know about 20.
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Hobbs
If pushed, would add probably
Hutton
Chappell
But that's about it.
If they have to be up there, then why not Gavaskar up there with Viv? Or Sutcliffe with Hobbs? Or Barrington up there with Sobers. Rightly or wrongly they just aren't mentioned in the same breath.If Tendulkar is there Kallis/Ponting have to be then.
Had to vote for Marshall because he was the best quick of all time, whereas Richards, as good as he may have been, wasn't the best batsman (even if you exclude Bradman).
Sure, I'd almost buy that re: McGrath. But there must be at least 20 batsman who you could make a reasonable argument for being equal or better than Viv.
There are just as many contenders for best bowler as there are for batsman. Hadlee, Imran, McGrath, Steyn,are the ones I'd put right up there with Marshall. That's not even counting spinners like Murali, Warne and O'Reilly.Don't know about 20.
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Hobbs
If pushed, would add probably
Hutton
Chappell
But that's about it.
Definitely not Ambrose, Holding, Waqar, Wasim, Lillee, Trueman or Donald in my opinion. All have significant (in relation to being the greatest ever, not ATG or top 10 etc) questions or spots on their records.There are a fair few quicks you could argue are roughly the equal of Marshall though.
Hadlee, Ambrose, Holding, Imran, Waqar, Wasim, Lillee, McGrath, Trueman, Steyn, Donald….
Classic hater of abilities.Marshall, no one knows even name of him
What? You are comparing the longevity of a guy who stands around waving a stick to an actual athlete?Has to be Viv. Of all i have seen probably only peak Ponting comes close to the way he played quick bowling. Stood up under pressure and would club the opposition into submission. Also gets higher marks than Marshall in longevity
He could also get a ball to move two ways in one delivery, usually swinging in and seaming away. The only other guy I've seen who could do that with any regularity was Wasim Akram, and he was nowhere near as consistent as Marshall.He could swing the ball either way with no discernible change of action.