CW decides the greatest All-Rounder ever, 64 man knockout tournament: Voting Thread

[AndrewB]

Tony Greig vs Monty Noble
Ravi Ashwin vs Jacques Kallis
Kapil Dev vs Imran Khan
Keith Miller vs Richie Benaud
Mustaq Mohammad vs Shakib Al-Hasan
Richard Hadlee vs Ian Botham
Garry Sobers vs Clive Rice
Jack Gregory vs Learie Constantine

 

[The Sean]

Tony Greig vs Monty Noble

Ravi Ashwin vs Jacques Kallis

Kapil Dev vs Imran Khan

Keith Miller vs Richie Benaud

Mustaq Mohammad vs Shakib Al-Hasan

Richard Hadlee vs Ian Botham

Garry Sobers vs Clive Rice

Jack Gregory vs Learie Constantine

 

[jaideep]

Tony Greig
Jacques Kallis
Imran Khan
Keith Miller
Shakib Al-Hasan
Richard Hadlee
Gary Sobers
Jack Gregory

 

[Hurricane]

Ravi Ashwin

Imran Khan

Keith Miller

Shakib Al-Hasan

Ian Botham

Garry Sobers

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Greig
Kallis
Dev
Miller
Mushtaq
Botham
Sobers
Gregory

 

[fredfertang]

Greig
Kallis
Dev
Miller
Mushtaq
Botham
Sobers
Gregory

That'll do for me too

 

[Red]

Tony Greig vs Monty Noble

Ravi Ashwin vs Jacques Kallis

Kapil Dev vs Imran Khan

Keith Miller vs Richie Benaud

Mustaq Mohammad vs Shakib Al-Hasan

Richard Hadlee vs Ian Botham

Garry Sobers vs Clive Rice

Jack Gregory vs Learie Constantine

 

[Red]

Hadlee a better cricketer than Botham but Botham a better all-rounder than Hadlee. Does that even make sense? Does in my head.

Noble vs Greig a tough one.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Hadlee a better cricketer than Botham but Botham a better all-rounder than Hadlee. Does that even make sense? Does in my head.

Hadlee just isn't an all rounder. As a cricketer you could argue that his vastly superior bowling outweighs his inferior batting. But then as a cricketer you could say the same about Glenn McGrath even though he can't bat to save his granny.

 

[mr_mister]

yeah but breaking it down with numbers, McGrath and Hadlee are pretty damn close in bowling quality, where as McGrath's batting is way ****ter


10 and 10 for bowling, 5 and 2 for batting? With Hadlee being the 5 obviously.

And then you have botham who is maybe an 8 and an 8 in both categories(pulled that number out of my ass obviously). Hadlee/Botham is closer than you think as Hadlee was a better bowler and it's not like Botham is in an elite class of batsman despite some memorable innings

 

[mr_mister]

2 test tons and 15 test fifties should be enough to qualify as an all-rounder tbh, even if his role and expectations with the bat were different to Botham's

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Hadlee was a decent lower order batsman, but that wasn't really the point. I was agreeing with the point about there being a difference between being the better cricketer or the better all rounder.

 

[mr_mister]

yeah but shouldnt you take into account their ability within each discipline?


good batsman and a great batsman(botham)

a great bowler and an ATG bowler(hadlee)


so they are equal as all-rounders then?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

yeah but shouldnt you take into account their ability within each discipline?

To decide who's the better all rounder, yes. Best cricketer, no. They're all cricketers irrespective of mixed ability.

 

[mr_mister]

Round 3 Results:

Greig wins 17-8
Kallis wins 24-2

Imran wins 23-3
Miller wins 25-1

Shakib wins 14-12
Botham wins 22-4

Sobers wins 24-2
Gregory wins 19-4



Quarter Finals:


Tony Greig vs Jacques Kallis

Imran Khan vs Keith Miller

Shakib Al-Hasan vs Ian Botham

Garry Sobers vs Jack Gregory

 

[mr_mister]

Kallis
Miller(so tough)
Botham
Sobers

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Kallis
Miller
Botham
Sobers

 

[morgieb]

Tony Greig vs Jacques Kallis

Imran Khan vs Keith Miller

Shakib Al-Hasan vs Ian Botham

Garry Sobers vs Jack Gregory

 

[cnerd123]

Jacques Kallis
Imran Khan
Shakib Al-Hasan
Garry Sobers

 

[marc71178]

Kallis
Imran
Botham
Sobers