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    Chaminda Vaas bowled brilliantly under pressure and Atapattu's captaincy under pressure last night was brilliant.
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    Tendulkar a choker? The guy has more pressure on him than any other batsman every game he goes out there, whether it be a final, a match against Pakistan or a simple ODI. Sure he doesn't perform in the finals but not many of the Indians do either.

    For me great pressure players are Dravid, Steve Waugh and Laxman. Hell I'll add Chaminda Vaas for yesterday's performance 8D
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    For India its R Dravid with bat, mostly do good in tight matches. Ajit Agarkar is good in crunch situation with the ball.

    For Australia , its Steven Waugh and Warne.

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    Originally posted by Eclipse
    Gilly usualy fails to capitalize on situations like 5/400 most of the time despite popular opinion. He get's out becuse he has to much of a licence to throw the bat.
    Ok let's examine this...

    81 [88] on debut - 342/5
    149* [163] v Pak - 126/5
    78 [119] v Ind - 197/5
    89 [126] v NZ - 29/5
    87 [124] v WI - 289/5
    122 [112] v Aus - 99/5
    152 [143] v Eng - 336/5
    90 [121] v Eng - 230/5
    118 [158] v NZ - 260/5
    83* [99] v NZ - 244/5
    204* [213] v SA - 293/5
    138* [108] v SA - 176/5
    91 [107] v SA - 182/5
    133 [121] v Eng - 150/5
    77 [81] v WI - 349/4
    101* [104] v WI - 371/3
    113* [94] v Zim - 502/5

    Eclipse has a point, but the general score that he enters at a glance would be around 250.
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    Originally posted by Jono
    Tendulkar a choker? The guy has more pressure on him than any other batsman every game he goes out there
    Lara would contest that.

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    Upon actually doing the calculations, the average score that Gilchrist enters at and goes on to make a significant score (ie 75+) is 245.58.

    That's not far off from my mental estimate.

    Furthermore, the batsmen ahead of him in these matches average 50.91.

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    Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Upon actually doing the calculations, the average score that Gilchrist enters at and goes on to make a significant score (ie 75+) is 245.58.

    That's not far off from my mental estimate.

    Furthermore, the batsmen ahead of him in these matches average 50.91.
    well 245/5 isnt a brilliant score...now if we say Australia go at about 3.5 or 4 an over, Gilly is coming in when the new ball will be due to be taken within an hour...he needs to make sure he is there at that time...of course if he has batted for an hour, he is well on his way to taking the game from the opposition, whereas at 245 for 5, the opposition would be confident of getting Australia out for less than 350.

    To me Gilchrist is the pivotal batsman, which is a position with a lot of pressure...to say he cant take the pressure is just stupid
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    Originally posted by Swervy
    To me Gilchrist is the pivotal batsman, which is a position with a lot of pressure...to say he cant take the pressure is just stupid
    Well, true to an extent. But I still consider Gilchrist to be over-rated by many. He's not the greatest batsman-keeper ever IMO and not even the best keeper-batsman now.

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    Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Well, true to an extent. But I still consider Gilchrist to be over-rated by many. He's not the greatest batsman-keeper ever IMO and not even the best keeper-batsman now.

    ooooh a tad harsh i think...but youu might be right.

    But I dont think it is any coincidence that Gilchrist being in the test team was the time when really the Aussies turned it on and left the other teams behind.

    he might not be the best keeper batsman in the world of all time, but he has changed the course of more games with his batting than any keeper in history..and when he is in form , there isnt one single batsman in the world who is more dangerous

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    and when he is in form , there isnt one single batsman in the world who is more dangerous
    I would definitely disagree there!

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    ooooh a tad harsh i think...but youu might be right.

    But I dont think it is any coincidence that Gilchrist being in the test team was the time when really the Aussies turned it on and left the other teams behind.

    he might not be the best keeper batsman in the world of all time, but he has changed the course of more games with his batting than any keeper in history..and when he is in form , there isnt one single batsman in the world who is more dangerous
    watch how his form deteriorates when he plays in the sub continent or when he plays against a good quality spin attack
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    Originally posted by tooextracool
    watch how his form deteriorates when he plays in the sub continent or when he plays against a good quality spin attack
    watch how many players form goes down on the sub-continent..thats cricket mate..doesnt make him a poor player in pressure situations

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    watch how many players form goes down on the sub-continent..thats cricket mate..doesnt make him a poor player in pressure situations
    no im doubting his ability to play spin or on slow tracks

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    Originally posted by tooextracool
    no im doubting his ability to play spin or on slow tracks
    but this thread is about how players handle pressure..i took it that when you said that about Gilchrist and the sub continent you were iplying it was coz of his lack of ability to handle pressure

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    Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    I would definitely disagree there!
    ok...it is only my opinion, however I think there are a number of experts who may well agree with me on that one

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