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    Cricketweb decides the greatest bowler ever in a 64 player bracket. Contest thread.

    So this is for the greatest ever bowler. It's not specifically tests. It's across any format just like the batting one. But if you value tests above ODI cricket, vote accordingly. I'll stop now before I confuse the voters, common sense should prevail here. Use any and all means of deciding. Stats, technique, longevity, influence..? it's all good.

    I would like to thank the people who nominated plus those who helped with ideas for the structure. Spinners and Paceman are in one bracket... sorry if this bothers you. And the bracket is completely random, so round 1 won't be full of blowouts this time. There were quite a few people saying there should be seeds, but there were more saying there shouldn't. Sorry to those on the losing side of the argument... I hope you still turn up to vote.

    Some bowlers might get lucky and draw a fairytale run into the final 4 against expectations.... at least this will be less predictable than the batting contest! At the end of the day, the best bowler will still win. And the second best bowler might go out in round 1, but we can gauge his overall strength anyway based on how close he lost to the eventual winner y'know? If Warne goes over someone in round 2 by a bigger margin than he did in round 1, we can assume X > Y. So we will still get a tier list kinda thing, it can still count as an 'exercise' just a less accurate one.

    Having to cast 32 votes for the first round is a pain I know..... but it'll get easier each time at least. And there's no real point splitting Round 1 into two days just to save a few seconds when making your vote. So yeah, here's the bracket. Matches to stay open 36-48 hours, i'll give a 5 hour warning before closing so there's no cries of me rigging results.

    *Note these "seeds" were randomized. The numbers next to the players names on this link indicate nothing... I dunno why it even put numbers but whatever. I've sorted the tournament into 8 divisions so we get a rough idea of who will be matching up in the quarters. Winner of Division 1 verses winner of Division 2, 3 vs 4, 5 v 6 and 7 v 8.

    Tournament Bracket Generator - Challonge

    Round 1:

    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte





    Well... some interesting matches. Division 4 the only "soft" group... the rest all have at least one member who was top 8 seed worthy IMO. There are several group of deaths lol. 2 5 and 7 look especially brutal. Part of the fun. Vote away!
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    well here goes nothing lol

    my votes!


    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
    Last edited by mr_mister; 06-11-2015 at 09:51 AM.

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    Round 1:

    Division 1

    Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger
    Richard Hadlee
    Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillee
    Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud
    Fred Trueman
    Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna

    Division 4

    Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner
    Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity

    Division 5

    Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts
    Malcolm Marshall
    Fred Spofforth

    Division 6

    Jim Laker
    Fazal Mahmood
    Alan Donald
    Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson
    Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram
    Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate

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    Round 1:

    Shoaib Akhtar
    Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee
    Imran Khan

    Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillee
    Bill O'Reilly

    Richie Benaud
    Clarrie Grimmett
    Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna

    Anil Kumble
    Charlie Turner
    Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity

    Jeff Thomson
    Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall
    Glenn McGrath

    Jim Laker
    Fazal Mahmood
    Alan Donald
    Joel Garner

    Alan Davidson
    Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram
    Sydney Barnes

    Hugh Tayfield
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    Dale Steyn
    Subhash Gupte
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    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar
    Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee
    Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillee
    Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud
    Fred Trueman
    Curtley Ambrose
    Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner
    Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity

    Division 5

    Jeff Thomson
    Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall
    Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker
    Hugh Trumble
    Alan Donald
    Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alec Bedser
    Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram
    Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate
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    Division 1

    Shane Bond
    Ironmonger
    Hadlee
    Imran

    Division 2

    Larwood
    Warne
    Lillee
    Procter

    Division 3

    Tyson
    Trueman
    Ambrose
    Bedi

    Division 4

    Kumble
    Turner
    Gillispie
    Verity

    Division 5

    Croft
    Waqar
    Marshall
    Mcgrath

    Division 6

    Laker
    Mahmood
    Donald
    Garner

    Division 7

    Davidson
    Miller
    Holding
    Barnes

    Division 8

    Tayfield
    Muralitharan
    Steyn
    Gupte

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    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subramanya Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtly Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Allan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
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    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
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    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock no ****ing idea
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
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    Division 1

    Shane Bond
    Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee
    Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillee
    Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud
    Fred Trueman
    Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna

    Division 4

    Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner
    Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity

    Division 5

    Jeff Thomson
    Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall
    Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker
    Fazal Mahmood
    Alan Donald
    Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alec Bedser
    Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram
    Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    Dale Steyn
    Subhash Gupte
    Last edited by indiaholic; 06-11-2015 at 10:49 AM.
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    Round 1:

    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs
    Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    So this is for the greatest ever bowler. It's not specifically tests. It's across any format just like the batting one. But if you value tests above ODI cricket, vote accordingly. I'll stop now before I confuse the voters, common sense should prevail here. Use any and all means of deciding. Stats, technique, longevity, influence..? it's all good.

    I would like to thank the people who nominated plus those who helped with ideas for the structure. Spinners and Paceman are in one bracket... sorry if this bothers you. And the bracket is completely random, so round 1 won't be full of blowouts this time. There were quite a few people saying there should be seeds, but there were more saying there shouldn't. Sorry to those on the losing side of the argument... I hope you still turn up to vote.

    Some bowlers might get lucky and draw a fairytale run into the final 4 against expectations.... at least this will be less predictable than the batting contest! At the end of the day, the best bowler will still win. And the second best bowler might go out in round 1, but we can gauge his overall strength anyway based on how close he lost to the eventual winner y'know? If Warne goes over someone in round 2 by a bigger margin than he did in round 1, we can assume X > Y. So we will still get a tier list kinda thing, it can still count as an 'exercise' just a less accurate one.

    Having to cast 32 votes for the first round is a pain I know..... but it'll get easier each time at least. And there's no real point splitting Round 1 into two days just to save a few seconds when making your vote. So yeah, here's the bracket. Matches to stay open 36-48 hours, i'll give a 5 hour warning before closing so there's no cries of me rigging results.

    *Note these "seeds" were randomized. The numbers next to the players names on this link indicate nothing... I dunno why it even put numbers but whatever. I've sorted the tournament into 8 divisions so we get a rough idea of who will be matching up in the quarters. Winner of Division 1 verses winner of Division 2, 3 vs 4, 5 v 6 and 7 v 8.

    Tournament Bracket Generator - Challonge

    Round 1:

    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte





    Well... some interesting matches. Division 4 the only "soft" group... the rest all have at least one member who was top 8 seed worthy IMO. There are several group of deaths lol. 2 5 and 7 look especially brutal. Part of the fun. Vote away!
    Shoaib
    Dev
    Hadlee (sorry Pollock)
    Imran
    Chandra
    Warne
    Lillee
    O'Reilly
    Benaud
    Trueman
    Ambrose
    Bedi
    Underwood
    Adcock
    Willis
    Verity
    Croft
    Waqar
    MM
    Mcgrath
    Laker
    Fazal
    Donald
    Garner
    Davidson
    Miller
    Akram
    Barnes
    Snow
    Murali
    Steyn
    Gupte
    Cause Slifer said so.........!!!!

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    Man, Holding deserves more votes.

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    yeah he got a rough match first up. As did Grimmett. Funny that 2 of the Indian quartet are head to head straight away and that none of the Windies quick will probably run into each other(unless Marshall and Ambrose go all the way). Also I feel Bond vs Shoaib is the perfect first match. 2 gifted, exciting, modern speedsters who sum up the words "wasted potential" better than any others on the list

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    Round 1:

    Division 1

    Shoaib Akhtar vs Shane Bond
    Bert Ironmonger vs Kapil Dev
    Richard Hadlee vs Shaun Pollock
    Ray Lindwall vs Imran Khan

    Division 2

    Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar vs Harold Larwood
    Shane Warne vs Wes Hall
    Dennis Lillee vs George Lohmann
    Mike Procter vs Bill O'Reilly

    Division 3

    Richie Benaud vs Frank Tyson
    Fred Trueman vs Clarrie Grimmett
    Johnny Briggs vs Curtley Ambrose
    Erapalli Prasanna vs Bishan Bedi

    Division 4

    Anil Kumble vs Derek Underwood
    Charlie Turner vs Neil Adcock
    Jason Gillespie vs Bob Willis
    Hedley Verity vs Brian Statham

    Division 5

    Colin Croft vs Jeff Thomson
    Andy Roberts vs Waqar Younis
    Malcolm Marshall vs Jimmy Anderson
    Fred Spofforth vs Glenn McGrath

    Division 6

    Jim Laker vs Abdul Qadir
    Hugh Trumble vs Fazal Mahmood
    Peter Pollock vs Alan Donald
    Ian Botham vs Joel Garner

    Division 7

    Alan Davidson vs Alec Bedser
    Mohammad Asif vs Keith Miller
    Wasim Akram vs Michael Holding
    Courtney Walsh vs Sydney Barnes

    Division 8

    Hugh Tayfield vs John Snow
    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Arthur Mailey
    Ian Bishop vs Dale Steyn
    Maurice Tate vs Subhash Gupte
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