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    IYO: 10 best test batsmen OAT, 7 best paceman, 5 best spinners, 4 best keepers, 3 ARs

    (3 best All rounders). Tried to give more weight to the more common type of player



    10 best batsman:

    Bradman
    Hobbs
    Hammond
    Headley
    Hutton
    Sobers
    Pollock
    Richards
    Sachin
    Lara


    7 best paceman:

    Barnes
    Lillee
    Marshall
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    Wasim
    McGrath


    5 best spinners:

    O'Reilly
    Grimmett
    Laker
    Warne
    Murali


    4 best keepers:

    Ames
    Knott
    Healy
    Gilchrist


    3 best all rounders:


    Imran
    Hadlee
    Pollock #controversial

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post


    3 best all rounders:


    Imran
    Hadlee
    Pollock #controversial
    Who?
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    10 best test batsmen OAT, 7 best paceman, 5 best spinners, 4 best keepers, 3 ARs

    Batsmen

    Bradman
    Sobers
    McCabe
    Ponsford
    Hobbs
    Tendulkar
    Lara
    Grace
    Gavascar
    Richards

    Pacemen
    Hadlee
    Wasim
    Holding
    Marshall
    Lillee
    Steyn
    Ambrose I guess

    Spinners
    Warne
    Murali
    Underwood
    Bedi
    Young Daniel Vettori

    Keepers
    Taylor
    Gilchrist
    Knott
    Meh

    All Rounders
    Imran
    Botham
    Miller
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    Bradman, Sobers, Viv Richards, Tendulkar, Hobbs, Lara, G. Pollock, Hutton, G. Chappell, Headley

    Marshall, Barnes, Hadlee, Ambrose, McGrath, Steyn, Trueman

    Murali, Warne, O'Reilly, Grimmet, Laker

    Gilchrist, Sangakkara, Ames, Lindsay

    Imran, Kallis, Miller (from those not mentioned in other categories)

    EDIT: Added Hutton, took out Hammond.
    Last edited by ankitj; 15-08-2015 at 10:53 PM.
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    Batsman: Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Hobbs, Lara, Hutton, Hammond, Headley, Barry Richards, Graeme Pollock

    Pacemen: Ambrose, Barnes, Hadlee, Marshall, McGrath, Trueman, Larwood

    Spinners: Muralitharan, Warne, O'Reilly, Grimmett, Laker

    Keepers: Gilchrist, Knott, Ames, Flower

    All-rounders: Sobers, Miller, Imran
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    Batsmen;

    The Don
    Hobbs
    Hammond
    Sobers
    Richards
    Pollock
    Lara
    Headley
    Gavaskar
    Tendulkar

    Pace bowlers;

    Marshall
    Barnes
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    Wasim
    McGrath
    Steyn


    Special mention to Lillee


    Spinners


    Warne
    Murali
    O'Reilly
    Laker
    Underwood


    Keepers:

    Knott
    Gilchrist
    Ames
    Oldfield

    All-rounders:

    Sobers
    Miller
    Imran

    Kallis if I was allowed a 2nd batting allrounder and special mention to Botham for the 1st half of his career.

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    10 best batsman:

    Bradman
    Sobers
    Hutton
    V.Richards
    Tendulkar
    Hobbs
    Lara
    G.Pollock
    G.Chappell
    May

    7 best paceman:

    McGrath
    Marshall
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    Lillee
    Wasim
    Imran

    5 best spinners:

    Warne
    O'Reilly
    Grimmett
    Laker
    Murali

    4 best keepers:

    Evans
    Knott
    Kirmani
    Healy

    3 best all rounders:

    Gilchrist
    Miller
    Botham
    Last edited by Red Hill; 15-08-2015 at 12:50 PM.

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    In my opinion, longevity plays a major role in determining if a certain player can be considered as an ATG or not. 20-25 games are too little to determine hence I've picked players who have played at least 50 test matches.

    / Don Bradman, Garfield Sobers, Viv Richards, Jack hobbs, Brian Lara, Jacques Kallis, Sachin Tendulkar, Wally Hammond, Ricky Ponting, Len Hutton

    o (f) Malcolm Marshall, Richard Hadlee, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath, Dale Steyn, Wasim Akram, Dennis Lillee

    o (s) Shane Warne, Muttiah Muralitharan, Lance Gibbs, Richie Benaud, Anil Kumble

    + Adam Gilchrist, Alan Knott, Ian Healy, Mark Boucher

    / o Imran Khan, Keith Miller, Ian Botham / Shaun Pollock
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    Scorecard Draft (2010) V Sehwag, D Amiss, D Bradman (c), C Cowdrey, P Umrigar, A Faulkner, R Marsh +, M Marshall, W Hall, M Hughes, B O'Reilly
    Alphabetical Draft (2011) S Watson, G Kirsten, D Bradman (c), K Sangakkara +, C Cowdrey, K Pietersen, A Flintoff, M Marshall, B O'Reilly, F Trueman, T Alderman
    The Eras Draft (2014) V Trumper, A Morris, N Harvey, J Kallis, S McCabe, F Woolley, Imran Khan (c), J Dujon +, J Briggs, D Steyn, J Snow

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    Bradman
    Sobers
    Tendulkar
    Hobbs
    Headley
    Chappell
    Hutton
    Lara
    Richards
    Ponting

    McGrath
    Hadlee
    Akram
    Marshall
    Steyn
    Lillee
    Larwood

    O Reilly
    Laker
    Tayfield
    Warne
    Murali

    Knott
    Gilchrist
    Ames
    Walcott

    Imran
    Miller
    Faulkner

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    I don't know enough about players before 1970 really but I think bradman Hobbs and Hutton were the best 3 batsmen with Barnes trueman and Larwood the best quicks. But since 1970 I'm very clued up.

    Batsmen
    1. Boycott
    2. Gavaskar
    3. Dravid
    4. Tendulkar
    5. Richards
    6. Lara
    7. Kallis
    8. Waugh
    9. Ponting
    10. Cook

    Quicks
    1. Broad
    2. Marshall
    3. Garner
    4. Ambrose
    5. Akram
    6. Lillee
    7. Hadlee

    Spinners
    1. Warne
    2. Muralitharan
    3. Underwood
    4. Harbajan
    5. Kumble

    Keepers
    1. Stewart
    2. Prior
    3. Knott
    4. Sangakkara

    All rounders
    1. Botham
    2. Dev
    3. Khan
    Last edited by Geoffboycott; 15-08-2015 at 06:50 PM.
    Dream Team since 1970-2012 1.Boycott 2.Gavaskar 3.Dravid 4.Tendulkar 5.Richards 6.Botham 7.Knott(WK) 8.Warne 9.Snow 10.Marshall 11.Muralitharan 12th man Lara

    Dream Team 1870-1970 1.Hobbs 2.Hutton 3.Bradman (C) 4.Hammond 5.Barrington 6.Sobers 7.Ames(WK) 8.Laker 9.Larwood 10.Trueman 11.Barnes 12th man Sutcliffe

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    I am also going to exclude players such as Barnes, Headley and Pollock.

    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond, Bradman, Hutton, Sobers, Chappell, Gavaskar, Tendulkar, Sangakkara

    Lillee, Hadlee, Marshall, Wasim, Ambrose, McGrath, Steyn

    Grimmett, O'Reilly, Laker, Warne, Murali

    Ames, Knott, Healy, Gilchrist (taking batting into account)

    Sobers, Imran, Kallis
    ATG Test XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. S.R Tendulkar 5. W.R Hammond 6. G.S Sobers 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. Richard Hadlee 9. M.D Marshall 10. S.K Warne 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hill View Post
    10 best batsman:

    Bradman
    Sobers
    Hutton
    V.Richards
    Tendulkar
    Hobbs
    Lara
    G.Pollock
    G.Chappell
    May

    7 best paceman:

    McGrath
    Marshall
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    Lillee
    Wasim
    Imran

    5 best spinners:

    Warne
    O'Reilly
    Grimmett
    Laker
    Murali

    4 best keepers:

    Evans
    Knott
    Kirmani
    Healy

    3 best all rounders:

    Gilchrist
    Miller
    Botham
    Forgot Gavaskar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    (3 best All rounders). Tried to give more weight to the more common type of player



    10 best batsman:

    Bradman
    Hobbs
    Hammond
    Headley
    Hutton
    Sobers
    Pollock
    Richards
    Sachin
    Lara


    7 best paceman:

    Barnes
    Lillee
    Marshall
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    Wasim
    McGrath


    5 best spinners:

    O'Reilly
    Grimmett
    Laker
    Warne
    Murali


    4 best keepers:

    Ames
    Knott
    Healy
    Gilchrist


    3 best all rounders:


    Imran
    Hadlee
    Pollock #controversial
    You've picked Hadlee twice (bowler & allrounder) unless you've randomly put his his father or a brother in there.

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    Current players: 10 best test batsmen, 7 best paceman, 5 best spinners, 4 best keepers, 3 ARs

    Bats
    de Villiers
    Younus
    Root
    Sangakkara
    Amla
    Williamson
    Smith
    Mathews
    Azhar
    Kohli

    Quicks
    Steyn
    Anderson
    Boult
    Johnson
    Broad
    Southee
    Hazlewood

    Spin
    Yasir
    Herath
    Ashwin
    Lyon
    Shakib

    Keepers
    Watling
    Sarfraz
    Mushfiqur
    Chandimal


    AR
    Shakib and then it becomes difficult. I guess Moeen, Stokes and Anderson would be up there. I don't really think of Mathews as a Test AR or Ashwin.
    Last edited by NUFAN; 15-08-2015 at 09:30 PM.
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