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    The Kerry Pecker face-lift.

    Sir Vivian Richards, accomplished West Indian batsman wrote in his Auto-biography, Sir Vivian concerning the Kerry Pecker issue of the late 70's,

    ''... I felt that cricket had a new commercial image. Cricket needed a face-lift and Kerry Paker gave it to us....'''

    As we know the Kerry Pecker fiasco revolutionized Cricket cultivating new trends and leading to many riveting advancements.

    But do you feel that this whole new 'face lift' had a detrimental effect on the Game of Cricket itself? The sporting visage of Cricket has been marred by all sorts of transgressions; do you feel the Kerry Packer affair started it all?

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    I think without the innovations started by WSC that international cricket would not attract the crowds and interest it does today. The marketing and gimmicks were essential to attract new fans to the game. Without them, the money would have dried up and test cricket died an unatural death.
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    i agree....the game needed a kick up the ****, players needed to be paid more and looked after by the respective boards.
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    Whatever the goods (and there were undoubtedly some), Packer's actions were a disgrace and should be condemned every bit as much as those by the like of Cronje and Azharrudin.
    I suppose he never claimed to have cricket's best interests at heart, but still.
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    a disgrace? please elaborate

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    To quote Packer - "Cricket was the easiest sport in the world to take over - no one bothered to pay the players what they were worth."

    Was a neccessity and cricket has benefited from it - of course it would have been nice if we could have done it without some Aussie doing it for us, but not with Lord Stuffy Pluminthemouth et al. in charge.
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    Originally posted by Neil Pickup
    neccessity
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    Originally posted by Richard
    Whatever the goods (and there were undoubtedly some), Packer's actions were a disgrace and should be condemned every bit as much as those by the like of Cronje and Azharrudin.
    You what?

    Cronje and Azharuddin brought extreme shame onto the game of cricket.

    Packer brought fame to it.
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    Originally posted by PY
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    Originally posted by marc71178
    You what?

    Cronje and Azharuddin brought extreme shame onto the game of cricket.

    Packer brought fame to it.
    Packer basically did what Roman Abramovich is doing at Chelsea, using his money to group the strongest players together so he could watch them do battle. Packer deprived most of the stronger teams in the 80s of their top players, weakened International Cricket and turned it into the money hungry corperate mess it is now. If Packer had not come along, players might actually have breaks from time to time rather than trapsing all over the globe for about 10 months a year to yet another meaningless ODI series set up by some Japanese computer firm with no idea how to spell Cricket let alone what it entails.
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    but players wages in cricket would have meant many of the international players would have to have worked when no cricket was being played, indeed the situation was before the Packer affair that top players dropped out of tours because of work commitments.

    Packer did not deprive teams of their top players, various cricket boards decided to ban Packer players, in fact the West Indies still chose Packer players after the all of it came out into the open.

    It was at this time when cricket realised that the game was entertainment for its followers, all that glitz and glamour (Americanisation) has attracted alot of people to the game, probably inspired thousands to take up the game, which in turn has helped with the supply of top class players through out the world.

    The endless touring is nothing to do with Packer. The game needs income, these players are now paid good money to play the game they love. It is up to each individual board to be sensible on scheduling and indeed team selection to ensure burn out does not take place. To blame the overcrowded schedule on events over a quarter of century ago doesnt seem right to me.

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    Packer did not deprive teams of their top players, various cricket boards decided to ban Packer players, in fact the West Indies still chose Packer players after the all of it came out into the open.
    I'm afraid what you've just said contradicts it's self. Packer did deprive countries of their top players, since they were wooed away by the money and didn't play for their countries, then when Packer had finished with them, they were not picked by their countries because they had chosed Packer and their boards felt they had betrayed them.

    As for the globalisation of cricket, yet Packer did start that, because of the increased wages he offered to the players surpassed anything they had recieved before and they demanded them on their return to International cricket. And since there wasn't enough money they had to find sponsers...who demanded greater exposia and more cricket so they could advertise more...

    But I don't think many people will disagree with me, like you have, when I say there is far too much International cricket played that the moment, yes Cricketers are paid a lot of money, but is there really the need to be on the road 10 months a year with barely a break? This is a physical sport and most players are burnt out after just a few years, all in the name of advertising. Honestly it's like when McDonalds said their aim was to have a resturant a maximum of 4 miles away from anyone in America and England...some people don't like McDonalds, and some people like cricket but would rather it had some point to it rather than yet another of the phantom triangular series against the same oppenents they played last week...

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    i havent disagreed with you on the fact that there is too much international cricket being played.

    Which countries didnt pick WSC players after Packer got his TV rights? I know England, Australia and WI picked those players straight away...as did Pakistan (imran Khan)

    These players were actually available to play for their countries but the ICC and the boards decided to make a stand (cut off their noses to spite their faces?) and not allow these players to play in 'officially' sanctioned games.Packer never said that they couldnt play for their countries.

    The players who played WSC never regretted it,the players who have benefitted from better pay will be glad it happened, the spectators are certainly happy with the show,and I dare say the increased revenue due to increased awareness of the game pleases the boards as well......so really what is there bad to say about the Packer 'circus'?

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    i havent disagreed with you on the fact that there is too much international cricket being played.

    Which countries didnt pick WSC players after Packer got his TV rights? I know England, Australia and WI picked those players straight away...as did Pakistan (imran Khan)

    These players were actually available to play for their countries but the ICC and the boards decided to make a stand (cut off their noses to spite their faces?) and not allow these players to play in 'officially' sanctioned games.Packer never said that they couldnt play for their countries.

    The players who played WSC never regretted it,the players who have benefitted from better pay will be glad it happened, the spectators are certainly happy with the show,and I dare say the increased revenue due to increased awareness of the game pleases the boards as well......so really what is there bad to say about the Packer 'circus'?
    Fair enough they are your views, but what I feel there is bad to say about Packer I've already said and that's what I believe.

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    Personally I would question what International Cricket would be like (if indeed it existed) without Packer's influence.

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