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Test cricket and the huge advantage team batting first

Cric123

School Boy/Girl Captain
It's a big problem in test cricket. It's not as big a problem in ODIs as it is in tests because of the much shorter length and the pitch doesn't wear out as much to have a massive impact on team batting second. In T20s, the toss barely plays a role as after as the pitch is concerned. In ODIs and T20s it's more scoreboard pressure rather than the pitch that impacts team batting second if team batting first gets a big total.

Anyway, back to the point, how can the toss be nullified in test cricket, or is it impossible?
 

flibbertyjibber

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Well in the current game the Aussies had the best bowling conditions and best batting conditions of the match by losing the toss and are getting pummelled. Good job we won the toss then or it might have been embarrassing for them.
 

Cric123

School Boy/Girl Captain
History proves chasing 300 or more successfully is rare. As a neutral, I would like to see Aussies win at Lords and do so batting second. I don't want the toss proving so crucial in test cricket.
 

Howe_zat

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Take it up with every captain who's put the opposition in. It'll take you a while as it's happened 590 times, with more than half of those decisions resulting in a win.

Post again when you've interviewed them all. Until then, godspeed.
 

Stapel

International Regular
History proves chasing 300 or more successfully is rare. As a neutral, I would like to see Aussies win at Lords and do so batting second. I don't want the toss proving so crucial in test cricket.
If you're really interested in history, please read some more first. Batting first can be an advantage. Probably even in more than 50% of the scenario's.

But this test is was not the deciding factor. Simply not.
 

kiwiviktor81

International Debutant
Test cricket needs to be made a 100-innings game, with each innings lasting one over. It's the only way to be fair.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think the only way to get around it is to have one batting pair from each team alternate turns at the crease each time a wicket falls.
 

Wrong un

Cricket Spectator
Aussie threw away a big chance to nail England on the first morning. If they had taken Root and bowled England for 200 then the toss is an irrelevance
 
Test cricket needs to be made a 100-innings game, with each innings lasting one over. It's the only way to be fair.
Like a baseball season, but in 1.5 days (or 5 sessions including 2 at night in one day).

6 home run sluggers for the DLF maximums and one maybe two pitchers, I mean bowlers, and some professional fielders.

And with great air time freed up between innings for commercials.
 

Daemon

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The toss isn't the problem, it's pitches that give significant advantages that are.
 
The toss isn't the problem, it's pitches that give significant advantages that are.
So polished concrete or smooth polished granite? A Stainless Steel sheet? An elite panel of stainless sheets four inches thick that the ICC randomly allocates to the grounds and retrieves at the end of each match.?
 
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Riggins

International Captain
Well in the current game the Aussies had the best bowling conditions and best batting conditions of the match by losing the toss and are getting pummelled. Good job we won the toss then or it might have been embarrassing for them.
Nah bollocks. We were comprehensively outplayed and with the teams playing like they did would have lost batting first or second, but the conditions were at best even, and probably in England's favour.


Not that the toss etc. should be legislated out, obviously.
 
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Zinzan

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Well in the current game the Aussies had the best bowling conditions and best batting conditions of the match by losing the toss and are getting pummelled. Good job we won the toss then or it might have been embarrassing for them.
From a neutrals POV, pretty troll-worthy post on a number of levels tbh.
 

cnerd123

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So polished concrete or smooth polished granite? A Stainless Steel sheet? An elite panel of stainless sheets four inches thick that the ICC randomly allocates to the grounds and retrieves at the end of each match.?
Wait, are you seriously suggesting that the entire concept of batting first in cricket is unfair? Like not just on certain pitches and against certain sides,but in all 2 innings cricket ever played?
 

kiwiviktor81

International Debutant
Seriously though, someone has to bat first. On occasion this will advantage them, on occasion not. The toss is as fair as anything else is. What are the alternatives?
 

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