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    Loss art of reverse swing

    With the roads being prepared for ODIs bowlers can no longer expect assistance from the pitch. So if you're failing to get anything from the wicket your only option is to do something in the air.

    Whatever happened to the booming inswinging yorkers of the 90s and early 2000s? Seems like everyone was doing it back then. Aside from Johnson and Starc I can't think of anyone else who successfully bowls reverse swing these days. It seems to have become a lost art.

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    One ball at each end ruins chance of that. Ball doesn't get scuffed enough to start reversing these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    One ball at each end ruins chance of that. Ball doesn't get scuffed enough to start reversing these days.
    Good point, I forgot about that. IIRC the Ws claimed the ball needed about 30 overs of scuffing to get it to reverse. New balls from either end would put pay to that.

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    This is crucial tbh. Reverse can make such a difference in the death overs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbrooks View Post
    With the roads being prepared for ODIs bowlers can no longer expect assistance from the pitch. So if you're failing to get anything from the wicket your only option is to do something in the air.

    Whatever happened to the booming inswinging yorkers of the 90s and early 2000s? Seems like everyone was doing it back then. Aside from Johnson and Starc I can't think of anyone else who successfully bowls reverse swing these days. It seems to have become a lost art.
    Lots of TV cameras and a more educated audience and administrators will do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goughy View Post
    Lots of TV cameras and a more educated audience and administrators will do that.
    Hasn't stopped chucking ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbrooks View Post
    Hasn't stopped chucking ...
    I would be very very impressed if you created this thread to post this.

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    Weren't you NZers arguing that two new balls has helped bowlers so much that the balance between bat and ball is better than ever? Atleast that's what I heard during the world cup from you blokes. On eexpensive series and you're bemoaning the lack of reverse now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Weren't you NZers arguing that two new balls has helped bowlers so much that the balance between bat and ball is better than ever? Atleast that's what I heard during the world cup from you blokes. On eexpensive series and you're bemoaning the lack of reverse now?
    Condition dependent; its what everyone has been saying the whole time, really.

    When it swings, 2 new balls is good. When it doesn't, 2 new balls is bad.

    An interesting tactic could be to let teams decide whether they want 1 or 2 balls. Or maybe for the team winning the toss to decide for the match (ICC if you read this, wipe your memories; hypothetical thought not actual suggestion).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbrooks View Post
    Hasn't stopped chucking ...
    Tell us more about your thoughts on chucking. We haven't heard enough from you regarding that particular aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indiaholic View Post
    I would be very very impressed if you created this thread to post this.
    Don't be impressed because I didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Weren't you NZers arguing that two new balls has helped bowlers so much that the balance between bat and ball is better than ever? Atleast that's what I heard during the world cup from you blokes. On eexpensive series and you're bemoaning the lack of reverse now?
    Wasn't me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldone View Post
    Tell us more about your thoughts on chucking. We haven't heard enough from you regarding that particular aspect.
    Since you asked so nicely.

    It is a blight on the game just like match fixing or using PEDs. Many a record attained by chucking should be annulled ... same as when an athlete is caught doping.



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