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    Favourite english batsmen from the dark age of english cricket? (mid 90s-00s)

    I might be wrong on the dark age, it might have started earlier and ended later. It's funny, I first started watching cricket as an 8 year old in the 98/99 ashes series and thought Atherton was the worst play ever. Feels like McGrath got him out for a duck every other innnings. But I've watched a few series on youtube from earlier and he was actually pretty good. I also remember Ramprakash scoring a 60 every other innings, he was my favourite.


    I can't make polls yet, but these are the names I think of when I think of the dark age.

    There's the guys who all had a stint as captain and from what I saw, were probably the best(at least when you consider batting averages)

    Butcher
    Atherton
    Stewart
    Hussain
    Thorpe


    Then there were the fringe players who all seemingly dominated county but struggled at test level:

    Hick
    Ramprakash
    Crawley
    Fairbrother
    Knight



    When Vaughn and Trescothick and later Pieterson came about it seemed the quality of the english batting was raised. Ashes 2001 was their last really bad series right?

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    Thorpe in tests, and Fairbrother in ODIs were decent.

    Dark Ages probably started from before I started watching cricket in 1991 (as I hear England was largely mediocre in late 80s) and continued till a while before the 2005 Ashes.
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    who did you think their best spinner was? Tuffers Such or Croft?

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    Loved so many of these guys. For better or worse they were my childhood.

    Athers and Ramps probably my favourites, Thorpe was just a bloody good player though.
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    ^yeah me too. I had a game called international cricket captain 2 from 99 and grew to appreciate all 10 of these names

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    Thorpe clearly the best once the world discovered Robin Smith couldn't play spin.

    As for ODI's Hick and Fairbrother were very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    who did you think their best spinner was? Tuffers Such or Croft?
    Such was a fantastic spinner, but (much like Tuffers) couldn't bat or field for toffee. Tufnell and Such definitely superior bowlers to Croft.
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    Thorpe was solid but Stewart was a genuine talent and the best of the immediate post-Gooch era.

    The rest were flawed. How you rate them depends on your preferences of strengths and prejudices against certain weaknesses.
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    Thorpe was easily the best test player of the era.
    Roger Twose was easily the best ODI player

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    Hick was so nice to watch. Should've been an ATG but dunno why he wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hill View Post
    Hick was so nice to watch. Should've been an ATG but dunno why he wasn't.

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    Was Atherton for me, of course, such a dogged fighter, and genuinely talented batsman. Imagine what he'd have been like if he wasn't constantly fighting back issues. Probably wouldn't have grimaced as much....
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    I loved Nasser, he wasn't the most talented but he had the fight in him, he made the most of his ability, maybe if Hick had Nasser's mental strength he would have achieved more.

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    no love for poor ol Marky Butcher haha. He was the first englishmen I ever saw score a 100

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