By when do you think India will become number one team in the World?

ajaagarkarajaaja · 10-02-2004, 10:35 PM

Most pundits believe that the days of the great Australian team are over/getting over and a new team is going to overthrow them.One team that comes to mind is India, that gave Australia a real scare on thier own back yard and has been beating Australia in Subcontinet since a long time.

By when do you think India will replace Aus as the best team in Universe?

Bouncer · 10-02-2004, 10:56 PM

I would say they are already the best.....This is Jokes forum isn't it.?

southern man · 10-02-2004, 11:09 PM

Very funny, where is the option not in most users life time?

Don Ricardo · 10-02-2004, 11:09 PM

IMO its not a matter of a set number or years, but more a question of whether they can achieve a number of outcomes in their cricket set up:

- produce some quality pace bowling that will be able to bowl test sides out

-improve the fielding dramatically, especially the out cricket ( the catching seems to be coming alog nicely at the moment though)

-produce some batsmen with the technique to succeed in all conditions- this means good defence and development of cross bat shots

-remove the petty politcing/ intrinsic corruption among the administration

-better development of the abundant youth talent

- prepare pitches that allow for balanced cricket
this one is the crucial one and if this is achieved from grass roots level all the way to the top, the other outcomes will fall into place- ie more kids will want to become pace bowlers if they see the pitches accomodate this skill, the batsmen will learn to play a more complete game etc.

Whether india will ever get to the top in the near future is questionable, however. On one hand they certainly have the potential due to population factors, but on the other hand the problems in their cricket set up are deep seated and will be difficult to overcome- so for the mean time id say india would struggle to reach the top and stay there for any length of time- the set-up is just too flawed. Look at the team now, for instance, and they have somewhat of a golden era of talent, especially in the batting, yet despite of this are still a fair way from CONSISTENTLY being a top side.

Tim · 10-02-2004, 11:11 PM

yeah good call Don, I agree with what you've posted there.

Mr. P · 10-02-2004, 11:12 PM

Very confident that India will take over our reigns, aren't you?:P Not even a 'Not for a long time' option.

I would like to remind you the the Aussies are still well clear of other teams and South Africa would be just as likely as India to take #1.

We can't stay on top forever, but who knows who'll be #1 when we drop down?

Pratters · 10-02-2004, 11:18 PM

Its a question every one is asking ..

When will England win the Ashes?
When will India be world champs?

Its a question whose answer we all know...

NEVER if they keep playing below potential!

Jono · 11-02-2004, 12:02 AM

My worry is this, our batting is in it's prime/golden era yet our bowling is full of youth. By the time our bowlers gather plenty of experience and hit their prime, our best batsman may be getting on in age. Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman aren't young, and whilst Sehwag, Yuvraj and Kaif (I have faith in him) are young and talented, we need them all to click at once and now would of been the perfect time. If we had top quality bowlers now we'd be right up there, but at the current moment I'd say not for a long time, possibly 10 years and thats being optimistic.

That being said I don't think the arrogant replies by some were needed. =-/

Vroomfondel · 11-02-2004, 12:16 AM

Jono,

this thread was started in stupidity, and doesn't really deserve thought out replies -- I think the replies it got were indicative of that.

This agarkarwhatever fellow is a pure flame-baiter. If you look at his post-history you'll see brainlessly pro-india arguments that are hardly believable and designed to incense. Just look at the two threads he's started, this one and the one on the "fastest non-chucker, Munaf Patel"

Can we please ban the guy? I for one have had enough crap.

masterblaster · 11-02-2004, 12:38 AM

I understand your sentiments mate,

However there is a thing as free speech and everybody is entitled to their own opinion no matter how popular or unpopular their opinion(s) might be.

Thanks for your co-operation,

Masterblaster

FRAZ · 11-02-2004, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterblaster
I understand your sentiments mate,

However there is a thing as free speech and everybody is entitled to their own opinion no matter how popular or unpopular their opinion(s) might be.

Thanks for your co-operation,

Masterblaster

Will you cosider it in my case too .

FRAZ · 11-02-2004, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterblaster
I understand your sentiments mate,

However there is a thing as free speech and everybody is entitled to their own opinion no matter how popular or unpopular their opinion(s) might be.

Thanks for your co-operation,

Masterblaster

Waiting for your well cooked "sugar coated " diss for me , mate . Just kidding

masterblaster · 11-02-2004, 12:52 AM

Ive got nothing against you, FRAZ.

Yeah, I stand firm with everybody is entitiled to their opinions. Its just that some people express their opinions in a tasteful, refined and sophisticated way....

Jono · 11-02-2004, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vroomfondel
Jono,

this thread was started in stupidity, and doesn't really deserve thought out replies -- I think the replies it got were indicative of that.

This agarkarwhatever fellow is a pure flame-baiter. If you look at his post-history you'll see brainlessly pro-india arguments that are hardly believable and designed to incense. Just look at the two threads he's started, this one and the one on the "fastest non-chucker, Munaf Patel"

Can we please ban the guy? I for one have had enough crap.

I understand your frustration as I too believed his "chucker" post was a disgrace, however as already stated by masterblaster, as long as his opinion isn't directly offensive to a poster his posts are still valid, and though this topic does look stupid, you can't argue with the fact that the idea of India toppling Australia to become the best has come up in various articles, magazines and internet columns. I think it deserves to be discussed, even if the matter it was brought up was "brainless" as you put it. India are a long way off from being the best, but its still worth discussing as to the reasons why that is.

age_master · 11-02-2004, 03:08 AM

where is the never option:P :P :P

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10-02-2004, 10:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bouncer First Class Debutant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Area 51 (Been requesting videos that even robelinda cant come up with - up yours all CW ) Posts: 860	I would say they are already the best.....This is Jokes forum isn't it.?

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southern man U19 Cricketer Join Date: May 2003 Location: dunedin new zealand Posts: 461	Very funny, where is the option not in most users life time?

10-02-2004, 11:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Don Ricardo School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 79	IMO its not a matter of a set number or years, but more a question of whether they can achieve a number of outcomes in their cricket set up: - produce some quality pace bowling that will be able to bowl test sides out -improve the fielding dramatically, especially the out cricket ( the catching seems to be coming alog nicely at the moment though) -produce some batsmen with the technique to succeed in all conditions- this means good defence and development of cross bat shots -remove the petty politcing/ intrinsic corruption among the administration -better development of the abundant youth talent - prepare pitches that allow for balanced cricket this one is the crucial one and if this is achieved from grass roots level all the way to the top, the other outcomes will fall into place- ie more kids will want to become pace bowlers if they see the pitches accomodate this skill, the batsmen will learn to play a more complete game etc. Whether india will ever get to the top in the near future is questionable, however. On one hand they certainly have the potential due to population factors, but on the other hand the problems in their cricket set up are deep seated and will be difficult to overcome- so for the mean time id say india would struggle to reach the top and stay there for any length of time- the set-up is just too flawed. Look at the team now, for instance, and they have somewhat of a golden era of talent, especially in the batting, yet despite of this are still a fair way from CONSISTENTLY being a top side.

10-02-2004, 11:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	yeah good call Don, I agree with what you've posted there.

10-02-2004, 11:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	Very confident that India will take over our reigns, aren't you?:P Not even a 'Not for a long time' option. I would like to remind you the the Aussies are still well clear of other teams and South Africa would be just as likely as India to take #1. We can't stay on top forever, but who knows who'll be #1 when we drop down?

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Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	Its a question every one is asking .. When will England win the Ashes? When will India be world champs? Its a question whose answer we all know... NEVER if they keep playing below potential!

11-02-2004, 12:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,430	My worry is this, our batting is in it's prime/golden era yet our bowling is full of youth. By the time our bowlers gather plenty of experience and hit their prime, our best batsman may be getting on in age. Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman aren't young, and whilst Sehwag, Yuvraj and Kaif (I have faith in him) are young and talented, we need them all to click at once and now would of been the perfect time. If we had top quality bowlers now we'd be right up there, but at the current moment I'd say not for a long time, possibly 10 years and thats being optimistic. That being said I don't think the arrogant replies by some were needed. =-/

11-02-2004, 12:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Vroomfondel U19 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: US Posts: 295	Jono, this thread was started in stupidity, and doesn't really deserve thought out replies -- I think the replies it got were indicative of that. This agarkarwhatever fellow is a pure flame-baiter. If you look at his post-history you'll see brainlessly pro-india arguments that are hardly believable and designed to incense. Just look at the two threads he's started, this one and the one on the "fastest non-chucker, Munaf Patel" Can we please ban the guy? I for one have had enough crap.

11-02-2004, 12:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
masterblaster International Captain Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 6,065	Ive got nothing against you, FRAZ. Yeah, I stand firm with everybody is entitiled to their opinions. Its just that some people express their opinions in a tasteful, refined and sophisticated way....

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