The ATS Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Lillian Thomson]

The same as the All Time Great thread but with an All Time Splat XI

Only one rule. Nobody is allowed to choose Tony Pigott for either a World or England XI. He only played because England needed someone quick a long way from home and he was in the vicinity.

England XI (This is only the last 30 years really as my memory is not what it was)

1. Tim Curtis
2. Paul Terry
3. Ed Smith
4. Darren Maddy
5. Usman Afzaal
6. Jason Gallian
7. Richard Blakey
8. Ian Greig
9. Alan Igglesden
10. Mike Smith
11. Ian Salisbury

 

[marc71178]

Needs more Dernbach

 

[Howe_zat]

Assumed we were talking about an All Time Spud XI

 

[fredfertang]

Another England XI

1. Mark Benson
2. Hugh Morris
3. Chris Adams
4. Ian Ward
5. Aftab Habib
6. Gavin Hamilton
7. Warren Hegg
8. Chris Schofield
9. Phil Newport
10. Darren Pattinson
11. Simon Brown

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Another England side

1. Mark Lathwell
2. Kim Barnett
3. Alan Wells
4. Graeme Hick
5. Mark Ramprakash
6. Rob Bailey
7. Steve Rhodes
8. Mike Watkinson
9. Martin McCague
10. Chris Silverwood
11. Martin Saggers

Not sure how you can pick a plop side without picking the biggest underachievers in the last 30 years in Hick and Ramprakash. Almost picked Chris Lewis but even he was passable in comparison to some of the garbage we have used over the years.

 

[weldone]

India in last 23 years:

Devang Gandhi
Woorkeri Raman
Pravin Amre
Mohammad Kaif*
Hemang Badani
Ajay Ratra+
Nikhil Chopra
David Johnson
Dodda Ganesh
Tinu Yohannan
Rahul Sanghvi

 

[fredfertang]

Another England side

1. Mark Lathwell
2. Kim Barnett
3. Alan Wells
4. Graeme Hick
5. Mark Ramprakash
6. Rob Bailey
7. Steve Rhodes
8. Mike Watkinson
9. Martin McCague
10. Chris Silverwood
11. Martin Saggers

Not sure how you can pick a plop side without picking the biggest underachievers in the last 30 years in Hick and Ramprakash. Almost picked Chris Lewis but even he was passable in comparison to some of the garbage we have used over the years.

and we've all forgotten John Stephenson, Neal Radford, Min Patel, Tim Munton, Mark Ilott and Jon Lewis

 

[Lillian Thomson]

and we've all forgotten John Stephenson, Neal Radford, Min Patel, Tim Munton, Mark Ilott and Jon Lewis

Not forgotten, but there are only 11 places available and mountains of dross to choose from.

Incidentally, Hegg and Rhodes are both better keepers than Alec Stewart.

 

[honestbharani]

India in last 23 years:

Devang Gandhi
Woorkeri Raman
Pravin Amre
Mohammad Kaif*
Hemang Badani
Ajay Ratra+
Nikhil Chopra
David Johnson
Dodda Ganesh
Tinu Yohannan
Rahul Sanghvi

Nilesh Kulkarni is the king of splats.... A wicket off his first ball in test cricket and literally nothing in all the other games he played, right? He will live on forever through cricket trivia games..



EDIT: Forgot to state the obvious that he should be there in this side ahead of Sanghvi.

 

[cnerd123]

Kaif was gun GAGF.

 

[morgieb]

Needs more Dernbach

Assumed the OP only took Tests into account.

 

[Dan]

Australia (Modern Era)

1. S Watson
2. G Maxwell
3. R Quiney
4. S Marsh
5. G Bailey *
6. T Paine
7. G Manou +
8. G Robertson/B Casson/J Krejza/C White/M Beer/A Agar etc.
9. D Cullen
10. S Cook
11. S Muller

Openers are hard since we've been relatively consistent and I'm not picking Cowan in this.

 

[Red]

Australia (Modern Era)

1. S Watson
2. G Maxwell
3. R Quiney
4. S Marsh
5. G Bailey *
6. T Paine
7. G Manou +
8. G Robertson/B Casson/J Krejza/C White/M Beer/A Agar etc.
9. D Cullen
10. S Cook
11. S Muller

Openers are hard since we've been relatively consistent and I'm not picking Cowan in this.

This'll sound a bit patriotic, but I'd back this team to be at the very competitive against a few actual test XIs of other nations at times.

 

[OverratedSanity]

India in last 23 years:

Devang Gandhi
Woorkeri Raman
Pravin Amre
Mohammad Kaif*
Hemang Badani
Ajay Ratra+
Nikhil Chopra
David Johnson
Dodda Ganesh
Tinu Yohannan
Rahul Sanghvi

We've had way worse players than badani (Vijay Bhardwaj ffs) and Kaif is a goddamn hero.

 

[Howe_zat]

This'll sound a bit patriotic, but I'd back this team to be at the very competitive against a few actual test XIs of other nations at times.

The batting is okay, the bowling is awful.

 

[weldone]

Kaif was gun GAGF.

We've had way worse players than badani (Vijay Bhardwaj ffs) and Kaif is a goddamn hero.

Cool down guys. Kaif was a hero in ODIs. I made this team for the longer format. I need 3 specialist middle-order batsmen (and there haven't been many in that role, thanks to our famous middle-order). Vijay Bhardwaj doesn't fit that role, as he was AR. Do you have any specialist middle-order batsman in mind? Raina? Anyone else? [Think both Yuvraj and Ajay Jadeja were better than Kaif and Badani]

 

[cnerd123]

Kaif was much better than Yuvraj and Raina. Criminally misused. Unfairly dropped. Was a much better Ranji bat than either of those; he just kinda gave up after being dropped from India and winning the Ranji trophy.

 

[weldone]

Ok then let's have Raina there.

 

[Flem274*]

I'll take five new zealand opening batsmen (including david white and blair hartland) and justin vaughan for my top six thank you. grant bradburn can be my spin bowling allrounder. will solve the rest of the team later.

 

[morgieb]

Australia (Modern Era)

1. S Watson
2. G Maxwell
3. R Quiney
4. S Marsh
5. G Bailey *
6. T Paine
7. G Manou +
8. G Robertson/B Casson/J Krejza/C White/M Beer/A Agar etc.
9. D Cullen
10. S Cook
11. S Muller

Openers are hard since we've been relatively consistent and I'm not picking Cowan in this.

Paine, Manou, Watson, Marsh all a bit harsh IMO. Though apart from spinners it's hard to find really dire players that played for us.