DoG's Test Innings and Bowling Performances. Updates thread.

The Sean · Dec 15, 2021

sunilz said:
Brian Lara's series in SL was better.
Vaas and Murali in SL were more dangerous than England bowlers in England.

It's difficult to imagine anyone batting better than Lara did in that series - even Bradman in 1930 can't have been much better, you wouldn't think.

That actually raises an interesting discussion point about individual performance vs team result and where different people draw the line. Lara's performance in Sri Lanka there may well have been the greatest batting of my lifetime, but some would always argue that it rates a little below the very top of any "greatest series" list since Sri Lanka swept the series 3-0 anyway, and as such his impact on the overall result was minimal to none.

Nikhil99.94 · Dec 15, 2021

sunilz said:
Brian Lara's series in SL was better.
Vaas and Murali in SL were more dangerous than England bowlers in England.

That’s why I mentioned 4 match series or over.Lara was on another level in Sri Lanka.
Broad,woakes,archer,stokes is a solid attack in England but agree vaas and murali in sl is better.

Days of Grace · Dec 16, 2021

Good question regarding series performances.

Brian Lara vs Australia at home in 1999:

62 at Port of Spain 5.56
3 at Port of Spain 0.13
213 at Kingston 16.37
8 at Bridgetown 0.50
153* at Bridgetown 18.49
100 at St. John's 11.33
7 at St. John's 0.25

Total: 52.63

Steven Smith vs England away in 2019:

144 at Birmingham 15.01
142 at Birmingham 12.59
92 at Lord's 9.49
211 at Manchester 14.61
82 at Manchester 7.98
80 at The Oval 6.95
23 at The Oval 0.82

Total: 67.45

Coronis · Dec 16, 2021

Days of Grace said:
Good question regarding series performances.

Brian Lara vs Australia at home in 1999:

62 at Port of Spain 5.56
3 at Port of Spain 0.13
213 at Kingston 16.37
8 at Bridgetown 0.50
153* at Bridgetown 18.49
100 at St. John's 11.33
7 at St. John's 0.25

Total: 52.63

Steven Smith vs England away in 2019:

144 at Birmingham 15.01
142 at Birmingham 12.59
92 at Lord's 9.49
211 at Manchester 14.61
82 at Manchester 7.98
80 at The Oval 6.95
23 at The Oval 0.82

Total: 67.45

God that Ashes was amazing. How would Bradman’s 1930 compare, if its not too much trouble?

Days of Grace · Dec 16, 2021

Don Bradman vs England away in 1930:

8 at Nottingham 0.18
131 at Nottingham 9.59
254 at Lord's 11.38
1 at Lord's 0.04
334 at Leeds 15.89
14 at Manchester 0.42
232 at The Oval 12.33

Total: 49.83

Days of Grace · Dec 16, 2021

Viv Richards vs. England away in 1976:

232 at Nottingham 11.58
63 at Nottingham 3.06
4 at Manchester 0.11
135 at Manchester 8.93
66 at Leeds 4.29
38 at Leeds 2.02
291 at The Oval 11.95

Total: 41.94

Starfighter · Dec 16, 2021

@Days of Grace Lara vs SL?

Nikhil99.94 · Dec 16, 2021

Days of Grace said:
Good question regarding series performances.

Brian Lara vs Australia at home in 1999:

62 at Port of Spain 5.56
3 at Port of Spain 0.13
213 at Kingston 16.37
8 at Bridgetown 0.50
153* at Bridgetown 18.49
100 at St. John's 11.33
7 at St. John's 0.25

Total: 52.63

Steven Smith vs England away in 2019:

144 at Birmingham 15.01
142 at Birmingham 12.59
92 at Lord's 9.49
211 at Manchester 14.61
82 at Manchester 7.98
80 at The Oval 6.95
23 at The Oval 0.82

Total: 67.45

Ok so, smith 2019 beats lara vs aus at home which beats bradman 1930 which beats viv 1976.Does any of bradmans series beats smith 2019?If not ,smith 2019 might be the best series performance ever.What about Herbie Taylor’s 500 odd runs against SF Barnes in matting wickets?And hammond’s 900 odd runs in 1928-29.Asked a bit much imo.

OverratedSanity · Dec 16, 2021

Smith not having to face Anderson in that series is the only thing that makes me hesitant to rank it above Lara in 99. By every other metric it's right up there.

mr_mister · Dec 16, 2021

Anderson featuring briefly in the 144 probably helped it's rating

morgieb · Dec 16, 2021

Where does Smith's India 2017 series end up?

Days of Grace · Dec 16, 2021

mr_mister said:
Anderson featuring briefly in the 144 probably helped it's rating

Actually, the strength of opposition rating is based on the opposition team's rating at the completion of the series (using my own team ratings). I'm thinking of changing it to the ICC ratings of individual bowlers in the attack, but as I said before, bowlers before 1900 typically had very low ratings, which was not representative of their true ability. I want to change it because it would mean Gooch's and Hughes' innings would receive a massive boost.

sunilz · Dec 28, 2021

Please rate Boland 6/7 in MCG test match.

Days of Grace · Dec 29, 2021

sunilz said:
Please rate Boland 6/7 in MCG test match.

We have to wait until the end of the series to calculate the opposition’s rating (which factors in their performance in said series).

ankitj · Dec 31, 2021

Then the spell is not going to get very high rating

Days of Grace · Dec 31, 2021

ankitj said:
Then the spell is not going to get very high rating

I don’t think it will get near the top 10. Low scoring match against weak opposition.

The Sean · Dec 31, 2021

Days of Grace said:
I don’t think it will get near the top 10. Low scoring match against weak opposition.

That's rather insulting.

To weak opposition.

Days of Grace · Aug 17, 2022

I have updated the top 100 innings list. This time I used the ICC bowler ratings (current at the end of the match in question) to rate the opposition that each batsman faced. I took each bowler's rating at the end of the match and weighted it against their career peak. I then averaged out the ratings of all bowlers who bowled at least 10% of the team's innings. I believe this is the fairest way.

			Opposition	Opp. rating	Venue	Year	Rating
1	MDKJ Perera	153*	South Africa	732	Durban	2019	20.89
2	BC Lara	153*	Australia	746	Bridgetown	1999	19.95
3	V Sehwag	201*	Sri Lanka	707	Galle	2008	19.94
4	IT Botham	149*	Australia	629	Leeds	1981	19.80
5	GA Gooch	154*	West Indies	761	Leeds	1991	19.60
6	VVS Laxman	281	Australia	608	Kolkata	2001	19.38
7	Saeed Anwar	188*	India	620	Kolkata	1999	19.30
8	C Hill	188	England	705	Melbourne	1898	19.05
9	BKG Mendis	176	Australia	638	Pallekele	2016	19.01
10	DPMD Jayawardene	180	England	740	Galle	2012	18.89
11	KR Mayers	210*	Bangladesh	485	Chattogram	2021	18.78
12	DG Bradman	270	England	572	Melbourne	1937	18.71
13	LD Chandimal	162*	India	559	Galle	2015	18.62
14	ST Jayasuriya	253	Pakistan	487	Faisalabad	2004	18.60
15	BA Stokes	135*	Australia	671	Leeds	2019	18.47
16	GL Jessop	104	Australia	708	TIe Oval	1902	18.10
17	RN Harvey	167	England	751	Melbourne	1959	18.01
18	Azhar Mahmood	132	South Africa	687	Durban	1998	17.98
19	BC Lara	213	Australia	744	Kingston	1999	17.80
20	KJ Hughes	100*	West Indies	814	Melbourne	1981	17.75
21	FDM Karunaratne	158*	South Africa	647	Galle	2018	17.64
22	BB McCullum	302	India	608	Wellington	2014	17.63
23	AC Gilchrist	149*	Pakistan	584	Hobart	1999	17.59
24	GC Smith	154*	England	697	Birmingham	2008	17.56
25	MA Butcher	173*	Australia	755	Leeds	2001	17.51
26	JE Root	115*	New Zealand	796	Lord's	2022	17.49
27	CG Greenidge	214*	England	504	Lord's	1984	17.41
28	KS Williamson	242*	Sri Lanka	498	Wellington	2015	17.20
29	JE Root	190	South Africa	722	Lord's	2017	17.04
30	Azhar Ali	157	England	745	Dubai (DSC)	2012	17.02
31	CA Pujara	123	Australia	770	Adelaide	2018	17.01
32	DG Bradman	212	England	616	Adelaide	1937	16.97
33	DR Martyn	161	Sri Lanka	675	Kandy	2004	16.91
34	DL Amiss	262*	West Indies	567	Kingston	1974	16.89
35	DG Bradman	299*	South Africa	421	Adelaide	1932	16.81
36	RN Harvey	151*	South Africa	552	Durban	1950	16.79
37	Hon.FS Jackson	128	Australia	729	Manchester	1902	16.73
38	KC Sangakkara	232	South Africa	656	Colombo (SSC)	2004	16.68
39	CL Walcott	220	England	546	Bridgetown	1954	16.63
40	CG Greenidge	213	New Zealand	661	Auckland	1987	16.56
41	Younis Khan	267	India	612	Bengaluru	2005	16.56
42	KC Sangakkara	156*	New Zealand	592	Wellington	2006	16.52
43	BB McCullum	224	India	607	Auckland	2014	16.51
44	ME Trescothick	180	South Africa	635	Johannesburg	2005	16.44
45	SM Gavaskar	221	England	578	The Oval	1979	16.40
46	D Elgar	141*	Australia	772	Cape Town	2018	16.37
47	WR Endean	162	Australia	738	Melbourne	1952	16.35
48	MEK Hussey	134*	Pakistan	605	Sydney	2010	16.31
49	DL Amiss	179	India	688	Delhi	1976	16.23
50	OG Smith	168	England	785	Nottingham	1957	16.17
51	LPRL Taylor	290	Australia	711	Perth	2015	16.08
52	KP Pietersen	186	India	684	Mumbai	2012	16.07
53	GS Chappell	182*	West Indies	608	Sydney	1976	16.07
54	DM Jones	184*	England	574	Sydney	1987	16.06
55	RT Simpson	156*	Australia	715	Melbourne	1951	15.96
56	SPD Smith	144	England	652	Birmingham	2019	15.95
57	GS Chappell	204	India	600	Sydney	1981	15.94
58	VT Trumper	159	South Africa	487	Melbourne	1911	15.92
59	Shahid Afridi	141	India	589	Chennai	1999	15.91
60	L Klusener	118*	Sri Lanka	519	Kandy	2000	15.86
61	JO Holder	202*	England	600	Bridgetown	2019	15.84
62	GS Sobers	168	Australia	639	Sydney	1961	15.82
63	Hanif Mohammad	337	West Indies	417	Bridgetown	1958	15.78
64	JE Root	186	Sri Lanka	460	Galle	2021	15.73
65	Mohammad Wasim	192	Zimbabwe	436	Harare	1998	15.67
66	MC Cowdrey	102	Australia	670	Melbourne	1954	15.67
67	KP Pietersen	158	Australia	780	The Oval	2005	15.67
68	V Sehwag	319	South Africa	637	Chennai	2008	15.66
69	BC Lara	226	Australia	637	Adelaide	2005	15.62
70	JM Bairstow	162	New Zealand	590	Leeds	2022	15.61
71	DG Bradman	334	England	478	Leeds	1930	15.59
72	DG Bradman	226	South Africa	439	Brisbane	1931	15.59
73	BF Butcher	133	England	600	Lord's	1963	15.58
74	ME Waugh	116	South Africa	507	Port Elizabeth	1997	15.55
75	RE Foster	287	Australia	480	Sydney	1903	15.50
76	RT Ponting	156	England	702	Manchester	2005	15.46
77	JJ Lyons	134	England	633	Sydney	1892	15.45
78	DPMD Jayawardene	237	South Africa	613	Galle	2004	15.41
79	CG Greenidge	226	Australia	534	Bridgetown	1991	15.40
80	R Dravid	233	Australia	518	Adelaide	2003	15.38
81	GS Chappell	176	New Zealand	536	Christchurch	1982	15.35
82	R Dravid	180	Australia	608	Kolkata	2001	15.31
83	JL Langer	191	Pakistan	467	Perth	2004	15.26
84	CG Greenidge	134	England	527	Manchester	1976	15.24
85	MN Samuels	123	New Zealand	451	Kingston	2012	15.23
86	MA Butcher	116	South Africa	622	Leeds	1998	15.20
87	J Darling	160	England	395	Sydney	1898	15.19
88	Younis Khan	127	England	745	Dubai (DSC)	2012	15.18
89	IR Redpath	159*	New Zealand	548	Auckland	1974	15.18
90	WW Armstrong	159*	South Africa	312	Johannesburg	1902	15.17
91	JL Langer	127	Pakistan	584	Hobart	1999	15.16
92	RT Ponting	257	India	543	Melbourne	2003	15.13
93	GR Viswanath	97*	West Indies	601	Chennai	1975	15.10
94	I.J.L. Trott	184	Pakistan	565	Lord's	2010	15.08
95	PHB May	285*	West Indies	450	Birmingham	1957	15.08
96	AN Cook	244*	Australia	643	Melbourne	2017	15.08
97	MJ Clarke	151	South Africa	585	Cape Town	2011	15.05
98	SM Gavaskar	236*	West Indies	580	Chennai	1983	15.05
99	B Mitchell	164*	England	443	Lord's	1935	15.03
100	V Kohli	153	South Africa	708	Centurion	2018	15.02

Let me know what you think about the changes and if there are any absent innings which you think might make the top 100.

Fuller Pilch · Aug 17, 2022

Days of Grace said:
I have updated the top 100 innings list. This time I used the ICC bowler ratings (current at the end of the match in question) to rate the opposition that each batsman faced. I took each bowler's rating at the end of the match and weighted it against their career peak. I then averaged out the ratings of all bowlers who bowled at least 10% of the team's innings. I believe this is the fairest way.

Opposition Opp. Rating Venue Year Rating
1
MDKJ Perera 153* South Africa 732 Durban
2019
20.94
2
BC Lara 153* Australia 746 Bridgetown
1999
20.00
3
V Sehwag 201* Sri Lanka 707 Galle
2008
19.95
4
IT Botham 149* Australia 629 Leeds
1981
19.86
5
GA Gooch 154* West Indies 761 Leeds
1991
19.64
6
VVS Laxman 281 Australia 608 Kolkata
2001
19.38
7
Saeed Anwar 188* India 620 Kolkata
1999
19.32
8
C Hill 188 England 705 Melbourne
1898
19.05
9
BKG Mendis 176 Australia 638 Pallekele
2016
19.03
10
DPMD Jayawardene 180 England 740 Galle
2012
18.94
11
KR Mayers 210* Bangladesh 485 Chattogram
2021
18.81
12
DG Bradman 270 England 572 Melbourne
1937
18.71
13
LD Chandimal 162* India 559 Galle
2015
18.68
14
ST Jayasuriya 253 Pakistan 487 Faisalabad
2004
18.62
15
BA Stokes 135* Australia 671 Leeds
2019
18.49
16
GL Jessop 104 Australia 708 TIe Oval
1902
18.14
17
Azhar Mahmood 132 South Africa 687 Durban
1998
18.03
18
RN Harvey 167 England 751 Melbourne
1959
18.01
19
KJ Hughes 100* West Indies 814 Melbourne
1981
17.81
20
BC Lara 213 Australia 744 Kingston
1999
17.80
21
FDM Karunaratne 158* South Africa 647 Galle
2018
17.69
22
BB McCullum 302 India 608 Wellington
2014
17.66
23
AC Gilchrist 149* Pakistan 584 Hobart
1999
17.64
24
GC Smith 154* England 697 Birmingham
2008
17.59
25
JE Root 115* New Zealand 796 Lord's
2022
17.52
26
MA Butcher 173* Australia 755 Leeds
2001
17.51
27
CG Greenidge 214* England 504 Lord's
1984
17.41
28
KS Williamson 242* Sri Lanka 498 Wellington
2015
17.26
29
JE Root 190 South Africa 722 Lord's
2017
17.07
30
CA Pujara 123 Australia 770 Adelaide
2018
17.07
31
Azhar Ali 157 England 745 Dubai (DSC)
2012
17.03
32
DG Bradman 212 England 616 Adelaide
1937
16.98
33
DR Martyn 161 Sri Lanka 675 Kandy
2004
16.94
34
DL Amiss 262* West Indies 567 Kingston
1974
16.93
35
DG Bradman 299* South Africa 421 Adelaide
1932
16.84
36
RN Harvey 151* South Africa 552 Durban
1950
16.82
37
Hon.FS Jackson 128 Australia 729 Manchester
1902
16.73
38
KC Sangakkara 232 South Africa 656 Colombo (SSC)
2004
16.68
39
CL Walcott 220 England 546 Bridgetown
1954
16.67
40
CG Greenidge 213 New Zealand 661 Auckland
1987
16.60
41
Younis Khan 267 India 612 Bengaluru
2005
16.58
42
KC Sangakkara 156* New Zealand 592 Wellington
2006
16.54
43
BB McCullum 224 India 607 Auckland
2014
16.53
44
ME Trescothick 180 South Africa 635 Johannesburg
2005
16.48
45
SM Gavaskar 221 England 578 The Oval
1979
16.40
46
D Elgar 141* Australia 772 Cape Town
2018
16.39
47
WR Endean 162 Australia 738 Melbourne
1952
16.38
48
MEK Hussey 134* Pakistan 605 Sydney
2010
16.34
49
DL Amiss 179 India 688 Delhi
1976
16.28
50
OG Smith 168 England 785 Nottingham
1957
16.23
51
GS Chappell 182* West Indies 608 Sydney
1976
16.11
52
DM Jones 184* England 574 Sydney
1987
16.10
53
LPRL Taylor 290 Australia 711 Perth
2015
16.10
54
KP Pietersen 186 India 684 Mumbai
2012
16.08
55
SPD Smith 144 England 652 Birmingham
2019
16.00
56
RT Simpson 156* Australia 715 Melbourne
1951
15.99
57
GS Chappell 204 India 600 Sydney
1981
15.95
58
VT Trumper 159 South Africa 487 Melbourne
1911
15.93
59
Shahid Afridi 141 India 589 Chennai
1999
15.91
60
JO Holder 202* England 600 Bridgetown
2019
15.90
61
L Klusener 118* Sri Lanka 519 Kandy
2000
15.86
62
GS Sobers 168 Australia 639 Sydney
1961
15.83
63
Hanif Mohammad 337 West Indies 417 Bridgetown
1958
15.79
64
JE Root 186 Sri Lanka 460 Galle
2021
15.75
65
Mohammad Wasim 192 Zimbabwe 436 Harare
1998
15.72
66
KP Pietersen 158 Australia 780 The Oval
2005
15.71
67
MC Cowdrey 102 Australia 670 Melbourne
1954
15.70
68
V Sehwag 319 South Africa 637 Chennai
2008
15.66
69
BC Lara 226 Australia 637 Adelaide
2005
15.65
70
BF Butcher 133 England 600 Lord's
1963
15.62
71
JM Bairstow 162 New Zealand 590 Leeds
2022
15.61
72
DG Bradman 226 South Africa 439 Brisbane
1931
15.60
73
DG Bradman 334 England 478 Leeds
1930
15.60
74
ME Waugh 116 South Africa 507 Port Elizabeth
1997
15.57
75
RE Foster 287 Australia 480 Sydney
1903
15.54
76
RT Ponting 156 England 702 Manchester
2005
15.50
77
DPMD Jayawardene 237 South Africa 613 Galle
2004
15.47
78
JJ Lyons 134 England 633 Sydney
1892
15.45
79
CG Greenidge 226 Australia 534 Bridgetown
1991
15.40
80
GS Chappell 176 New Zealand 536 Christchurch
1982
15.40
81
R Dravid 233 Australia 518 Adelaide
2003
15.40
82
R Dravid 180 Australia 608 Kolkata
2001
15.32
83
MN Samuels 123 New Zealand 451 Kingston
2012
15.29
84
JL Langer 191 Pakistan 467 Perth
2004
15.27
85
CG Greenidge 134 England 527 Manchester
1976
15.26
86
IR Redpath 159* New Zealand 548 Auckland
1974
15.23
87
JL Langer 127 Pakistan 584 Hobart
1999
15.22
88
MA Butcher 116 South Africa 622 Leeds
1998
15.20
89
WW Armstrong 159* South Africa 312 Johannesburg
1902
15.20
90
J Darling 160 England 395 Sydney
1898
15.19
91
Younis Khan 127 England 745 Dubai (DSC)
2012
15.18
92
GR Viswanath 97* West Indies 601 Chennai
1975
15.15
93
RT Ponting 257 India 543 Melbourne
2003
15.14
94
AN Cook 244* Australia 643 Melbourne
2017
15.11
95
MJ Clarke 151 South Africa 585 Cape Town
2011
15.09
96
I.J.L. Trott 184 Pakistan 565 Lord's
2010
15.08
97
PHB May 285* West Indies 450 Birmingham
1957
15.08
98
V Kohli 153 South Africa 708 Centurion
2018
15.06
99
B Mitchell 164* England 443 Lord's
1935
15.06
100
SM Gavaskar 236* West Indies 580 Chennai
1983
15.05

Let me know what you think about the changes and if there are any absent innings which you think might make the top 100.

Just wondering where you'd rank Abdullah Shafique's 160 not out for Pakistan in SL last month.

ankitj · Aug 17, 2022

Laxman 281 dropped to #6

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