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    Australia in ODIS

    In Last 20 games against each Country :-

    Vs. Ind :- Won 15, Lost 5
    Vs. SA :- Won 12, Lost 5, Tied/NR 3
    Vs. Pak :- Won 14, Lost 5, Tied/NR 1
    Vs. WI :- Won 14, Lost 5, Tied/NR 1
    Vs. NZ :- Won 12, Lost 7, Tied/NR 1
    Vs. SL :- Won 13, Lost 7
    Vs. Eng :- Won 15, Lost 5
    Vs. Zim :- Won 19, Tied/NR 1

    It seems they have been pretty consistent in their performance against all countries and they are in a different league altogether.

    Now I feel much better. :P

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    interesting stats there - india have choked and lost 4 finals in a 12 month period - and lost badly in 3 of them.
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    Interesting that the most succesful team against them has been NZ... The kiwis seem good at rising to the challenge of playing them...
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    Not recently though...I think Australia have won the last 5 or 6 matches against NZ.
    You could argue though that in those 5 or 6 matches NZ should have done alot better...numerous times did they have Australia 7/80 or 6/60 but have then failed to finish Bevan & the tail off.

    From what I can recall recently, NZ have probably blown about 3 wins against Australia...the other ones NZ have definately well & truly been beaten with ease.


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    Originally posted by Tim

    From what I can recall recently, NZ have probably blown about 3 wins against Australia...the other ones NZ have definately well & truly been beaten with ease.

    Whats their secret? They should have won their last test series too.... That was a good one to watch...

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    I don't think there's any secret to it.

    a) NZ can handle the sledge that Australia give out
    b) NZ and Australia have a huge sporting rivalry & it doesn't take much effort to really pysc yourself up for a match.

    I just wish NZ took that kind of attitude into all their matches.

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    I noticed in the VB Series, that although Pathan tried hard..he got suckered in by the Australian batsmen with all the sledging and eye-balling that went on.

    The minute Pathan started concentrating more on Hayden rather than bowling, he was taken to the cleaners & that is something you can't do.

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    Originally posted by Tim
    I don't think there's any secret to it.

    a) NZ can handle the sledge that Australia give out
    b) NZ and Australia have a huge sporting rivalry & it doesn't take much effort to really pysc yourself up for a match.

    haha i dont think sledging plays that big a part. the rivalry between the countries and NZ beleif that they can compete with Australia are the main things, and they have produced some fantastic matches

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    Originally posted by Tim
    Not recently though...I think Australia have won the last 5 or 6 matches against NZ.
    You could argue though that in those 5 or 6 matches NZ should have done alot better...numerous times did they have Australia 7/80 or 6/60 but have then failed to finish Bevan & the tail off.

    From what I can recall recently, NZ have probably blown about 3 wins against Australia...the other ones NZ have definately well & truly been beaten with ease.
    Well close encounters don't really count though -- top sides like Australia invariably pull through when the going gets tough.

    You will always get close one dayers but the hallmark of really good sides is the ability to win those.

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    I don't think the sledging has been a big factor recently, but I recall in the VB Series and during the Australian tour of NZ in 1999/2000 that there were some heated exchanges more than often.

    But I don't think it bothers either side anyway because they dish it out as good as they get it.

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    Thats right James...in the end, Australia won those close matches & deserved to.

    But in the context of some of those matches NZ should be pretty disappointed with their efforts after seemingly having Australia on the ropes a number of times.

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    In that NZ-Aus series the kiwis also had the benefit of a team that nowadays we would consider full strength.

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    Originally posted by Tim
    I don't think there's any secret to it.

    a) NZ can handle the sledge that Australia give out
    b) NZ and Australia have a huge sporting rivalry & it doesn't take much effort to really pysc yourself up for a match.

    I just wish NZ took that kind of attitude into all their matches.
    I don't think the fact can be overlooked that Fleming instantly worked-out some of Australia's favourite sons - Hayden, Martyn (the notorious two gulles, which Martyn twice, maybe even three times, cut straight to) and the bowlers bowled to the plans.
    New Zealand's succesful run also coincided with a time of very, very few dropped catches. Against Australia especially, that is so vital.
    None of the Australian batsmen had a great VB Series 2001\02 (McGrath and Gillespie both did well), indeed it wasn't really a batsman's tournament, and that suited Bond and Harris especially. Of course, it also suited Pollock, Ntini, Donald, Kallis, Klusener and the like, and only that Cairns innings (in which he could have been run-out about 5 times) meant it was as many as 1 out of 6.
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    Out of the 7 games won by NZ, Bond didn't play in 4 of those. I think NZ team of 1999-2000 was much better than the current team. It had good Batsmen like Astle, Fleming, Sinclair, Twose, Parore, Cairns, Harris,Styris and most of them in form.

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    Well most of those guys are still around, except a couple of them have retired or forced out because of injury.

    NZ are really only a few steps away from being a very dangerous ODI team..but as yet the opening position is still yet to be solved & we're probably short of another good fast bowler.

    Perhaps NZ also need to decide soonish on whether they want to play both Cairns & Oram. Cairns will need to score runs against South Africa or else NZ may look at a specialist batting option at 6 maybe or elevate Oram to 6, McCullum to 7 & play another bowler.

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