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    All Batsmen v All Bowlers

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    No all-rounders allowed.

    Who wins?
    Last edited by Le Mac; 06-05-2015 at 11:02 PM.

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    Might need to have a proviso - ie bowlers must have a batting average of 15> and batsmen not having bowled at all at international level, or 10 overs max.

    I'd need to see the team sheets before deciding.
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    Let's come up with some teams as well then. Bowlers can be as good at batting as you like provided they aren't considered genuine all-rounders and vice versa.

    Clarke for the batsmen and Johnson for the bowlers would be definites.
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    Batsmen would win. Little doubt. Many batsmen can bowl enough non-rubbish.
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    I think all bowlers would win. Most batsmen usually serve up juicy dollies that would be put away for sure.

    On a side note, isn't it interesting how ferocious batsmen are usually meek spinners or ridiculously slow 'medium pacers'. Think Tendulkar, Viv Richards, Gayle, ABDV, Kohli all fall within these two categories.

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    All bowlers would be the most interesting to watch though.

    ODI cricket is enough of a slugfest already.

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    Probably the batsmen. They usually have few issues now putting up 300 even when they don't have good players coming in right through the order. There would be little risk involved in batting hard at all, and if they're all international batsmen then they're all well versed in doing so against good opening and death bowlers anyway.

    You can only really have 6 front line bowlers in a side before adding more gives you no advantage at all. So while the team of 11 batsmen has some theoretical merit, the team of 11 bowlers doesn't, it's all drawback and no upside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    You can only really have 6 front line bowlers in a side before adding more gives you no advantage at all. So while the team of 11 batsmen has some theoretical merit, the team of 11 bowlers doesn't, it's all drawback and no upside.
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    Are the players in the bowling team as capable with the bat as say, Warne or Lee or Gillespie? Or are they more McGrath and that NZ guy who couldn't bat and Courtney Walsh?

    I reckon if all the bowling team's batsmen were the calibre of Lee, Gillespie, Warne and Johnson (sort of test level number 8s) it'd be a close contest. From the last decade-ish....

    Mitch Johnson
    James Anderson
    Graham Swann
    Shane Warne
    Chaminda Vaas
    Brett Lee
    Ryan Harris
    Jason Gillespie
    Dale Steyn
    Mitch Starc
    Morne Morkel

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    Graham Smith
    Matt Hayden
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Hashim Amla
    Ricky Ponting
    AB DeVilliers
    Virat Kohli
    Brendan McCullum
    Ian Bell
    Inzamam
    Younis Khan

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    Chris Martin has a club level hundred ffs. I think international level bowlers would be able to handle some gentle part timers just fine.
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    As already mentioned, provided the player is not considered a genuine all-rounder (ie. Not classified as all rounder) then they are fine for selection. Can't see a problem with any of the players you've listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Chris Martin has a club level hundred ffs. I think international level bowlers would be able to handle some gentle part timers just fine.
    Haha, where did you hear this? I can pretty well guarantee Tommy hasn't scored a ton anywhere, be it beach, bach, Basin Reserve.

    I'd say the batsmen are favourites, they generally become passably ok bowlers given they operate in the nets to international-class batsmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Chris Martin has a club level hundred ffs. I think international level bowlers would be able to handle some gentle part timers just fine.
    So do I. Still reckon Ponting would be capable of finding the edge of my bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Haha, where did you hear this? I can pretty well guarantee Tommy hasn't scored a ton anywhere, be it beach, bach, Basin Reserve.

    I'd say the batsmen are favourites, they generally become passably ok bowlers given they operate in the nets to international-class batsmen.
    Someone tell that to Ross Taylor. Terrible bowler when he bowls pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Probably the batsmen. They usually have few issues now putting up 300 even when they don't have good players coming in right through the order. There would be little risk involved in batting hard at all, and if they're all international batsmen then they're all well versed in doing so against good opening and death bowlers anyway.

    You can only really have 6 front line bowlers in a side before adding more gives you no advantage at all. So while the team of 11 batsmen has some theoretical merit, the team of 11 bowlers doesn't, it's all drawback and no upside.
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