Will test cricket survive into the 2030s?

[Shady Slim]

funnily enough on the topic of lazy West Indians, my grandfather always used to say in the viv richards era (jokingly) "they are so lazy, they all just hit big shots so they don't have to run"

well look at it now

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

My posts are like Microsoft products....first version is poor, and keeps improving from the 2nd one

You mean alternating between reasonable and terrible.

 

[G.I.Joe]

From what I know (and I could be wrong) there was no concept of a monolithic entity known as India until the British united all of it under their rule. Before that there were a lot of different kingdoms with their own rule paying tribute to the mughal emperor (if they fell under his area).

Nah. That is incorrect.

Look up the inscriptions on the Iron pillar at Delhi. Fascinating stuff.


And serious question - what is it with the Pakistani fascination with the Mughals? Every time I see a Pakistani talk about history it goes Indus valley -> Mughals -> British. Are the 3000 years in between the Indus valley and the Mughals not covered in the syllabus? It's always Mughals this , Mughals that.

List of largest empires that existed in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Pratters]

If a cricketer can bowl four overs instead of numerous ones and earn a good amount of money in some thing like IPL or BBL for many years, why would he go for tests.. It may survive in a few pockets but I fear about how it will be in 2035 say. It's come to a point where day night tests should start asap.

 

[Pratters]

Tests may survive but how healthy they will remain is a big question. Before the explosion of the ODI game and broadcast rights in mid 90s, tests were not going through a good phase with lots of dull draws in the 80s.

 

[smash84]

Nah. That is incorrect.

Look up the inscriptions on the Iron pillar at Delhi. Fascinating stuff.


And serious question - what is it with the Pakistani fascination with the Mughals? Every time I see a Pakistani talk about history it goes Indus valley -> Mughals -> British. Are the 3000 years in between the Indus valley and the Mughals not covered in the syllabus? It's always Mughals this , Mughals that.

List of largest empires that existed in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I said I could be wrong (which I probably am) but the Mughals is probably an easier reference point with a lot more recorded history (I presume). That Mauryan empire looks practically prehistoric but I would have never guessed it would be so big. There were a bunch of other plunderers too invading India from all over west asia but it was the mughals who really settled in for the long haul it seems(or were successful in setting shop). The other west asians seemed more ready to **** india up and move away with the loot.

 

[watson]

That is a fantastic article. Thanks for sharing.

It's nice to know that our concerns haven't changed much in a 100 years dfrinku - that is, the batsman and bowlers from previous generations had more daring, skill, and stamina, WG Grace would be helpless against modern bowlers, and cricket in general is going to hell in a basket.

 

[kiwiviktor81]

There will always be a place for Test cricket because it's so incomparably epic. Arguing otherwise is like saying quality restaurants will soon cease to exist because people can just eat at McDonald's.

 

[Daemon]

There will always be a place for Test cricket because it's so incomparably epic. Arguing otherwise is like saying quality restaurants will soon cease to exist because people can just eat at McDonald's.

Haha, that's a pretty good analogy.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Haha, that's a pretty good analogy.

waston's the weird dude who'd rather eat last week's doggy bag from the fridge than go out to a warm meal at the restaurant tonight

 

[harsh.ag]

waston's the weird dude who'd rather eat last week's doggy bag from the fridge than go out to a warm meal at the restaurant tonight

If only fancy restaurants started delivery.

 

[watson]

waston's the weird dude who'd rather eat last week's doggy bag from the fridge than go out to a warm meal at the restaurant tonight

Er no. I think you've misinterpreted my point.

 

[Cric123]

Another way test cricket could ensure prosperity is if we have more T20 and ODI specialists (batting) making up the core of the test side. Let's be honest, we would much rather see Hales in the England test team (not going to happen anytime soon) than Trott. As good as Tendulkar was statistically, he was a bore to watch. Give me a Pietersen, Symonds, Flintoff anytime. It is the hard hitting cricketers, rather than touch players, who make the game appealing.

 

[weldone]

Nah. That is incorrect.

Look up the inscriptions on the Iron pillar at Delhi. Fascinating stuff.


And serious question - what is it with the Pakistani fascination with the Mughals? Every time I see a Pakistani talk about history it goes Indus valley -> Mughals -> British. Are the 3000 years in between the Indus valley and the Mughals not covered in the syllabus? It's always Mughals this , Mughals that.

List of largest empires that existed in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good post. That is a useful wiki page. But to be fair to smali, he was probably referring to the the period right before British invasion. Having said that, I won't be surprised if a lot of Pakistanis don't know much about their history before the Mughal period (and after Indus Valley maybe, because that's too fascinating to be deleted from history books).

But, if you look at the largest of them all (the Maurya Empire in the time of the Great Ashoka), even that didn't cover south India.

 

[Daemon]

waston's the weird dude who'd rather eat last week's doggy bag from the fridge than go out to a warm meal at the restaurant tonight

? He's argued the opposite in this thread so far.

 

[watson]

Another way test cricket could ensure prosperity is if we have more T20 and ODI specialists (batting) making up the core of the test side. Let's be honest, we would much rather see Hales in the England test team (not going to happen anytime soon) than Trott. As good as Tendulkar was statistically, he was a bore to watch. Give me a Pietersen, Symonds, Flintoff anytime. It is the hard hitting cricketers, rather than touch players, who make the game appealing.

Not always;

 

[Furball]

Strange this. Basin Reserve Tests have had bumper crowds in the last few years, and when I tried to get tickets for the New Zealand Lord's Test, the ballot for the first 3 days was massively oversubscribed and the 4th day only had a few tickets left outside of the ballot. Sounds like doom-mongering codswallop to me.

Damn those Indians taking all the tickets.

 

[harsh.ag]

Another way test cricket could ensure prosperity is if we have more T20 and ODI specialists (batting) making up the core of the test side. Let's be honest, we would much rather see Hales in the England test team (not going to happen anytime soon) than Trott. As good as Tendulkar was statistically, he was a bore to watch. Give me a Pietersen, Symonds, Flintoff anytime. It is the hard hitting cricketers, rather than touch players, who make the game appealing.

Yes.

 

[Niall]

If a cricketer can bowl four overs instead of numerous ones and earn a good amount of money in some thing like IPL or BBL for many years, why would he go for tests.. It may survive in a few pockets but I fear about how it will be in 2035 say. It's come to a point where day night tests should start asap.

Nail. On. The. Head.

Another way test cricket could ensure prosperity is if we have more T20 and ODI specialists (batting) making up the core of the test side. Let's be honest, we would much rather see Hales in the England test team (not going to happen anytime soon) than Trott. As good as Tendulkar was statistically, he was a bore to watch. Give me a Pietersen, Symonds, Flintoff anytime. It is the hard hitting cricketers, rather than touch players, who make the game appealing.

I see what you are getting at, but to be fair Sachin was a mega draw when it came to test cricket especially in India where crowds always used to vanish when he got out recently.

It would be nice to see England have an aggressive batsman at the top, Hales isn't a million miles away from the test side, but he finished last season poorly for Notts and hasn't really turned it on for the limited overs side, maybe if he does well for Notts this season and if Vaughan is in charge, he has a chance.

Although yeah I can see how a neutral may not get to excited about the English test side, apart from Joss and maybe Bell, none are exactly going to appeal to casual fans.

 

[cnerd123]

Good post. That is a useful wiki page. But to be fair to smali, he was probably referring to the the period right before British invasion. Having said that, I won't be surprised if a lot of Pakistanis don't know much about their history before the Mughal period (and after Indus Valley maybe, because that's too fascinating to be deleted from history books).

But, if you look at the largest of them all (the Maurya Empire in the time of the Great Ashoka), even that didn't cover south India.

Is this even real.