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    The use of the word "genius" in a sporting context

    The Ponting fielding video posted in another thread got me thinking.

    Is it ever appropriate to refer to someone as a genius in reference to their sporting endeavours? To me sporting achievments boil down to high levels of skill and talent, but I do not think I could ever bring myself to bring myself to refer to any sporting moment as an act of genius.

    I thought about posting this in the GSF, as it is a question that is not necessarily confined to cricket, but would likely get more responses and a greater variety of views in here.

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    i always laugh when sledger tries to post seriously in cricket chat. the posting style just seems so convoluted compared to, well, sledger.

    as for the actual topic: sure. most people think of "genius" in this context as something that [almost] no one else is capable of, and certainly there's some things sportsmen can do which qualify. though it does suggest it's the result of some kind of divine freak talent just naturally expressing itself, ignoring the colossal amount of work that goes into being capable of such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    i always laugh when sledger tries to post seriously in cricket chat. the posting style just seems so convoluted compared to, well, sledger.
    Came here to post this.

    Pretty surreal for me. The only non trolling sledger posts I've ever read are in the wrestling thread. And even there he trolls Jono about HHH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    as for the actual topic: sure. most people think of "genius" in this context as something that [almost] no one else is capable of, and certainly there's some things sportsmen can do which qualify. though it does suggest it's the result of some kind of divine freak talent just naturally expressing itself, ignoring the colossal amount of work that goes into being capable of such things.
    Genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration.

    Sports definitely has geniuses. Every aspect of life does.


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    No different to any other hyperbole surely
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    So why isn't genius appropriate? Is it because it should purely refer to scientific or such achievements?

    To my mind it's much more appropriate than metaphors of violent destruction for a victory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    So why isn't genius appropriate? Is it because it should purely refer to scientific or such achievements?

    To my mind it's much more appropriate than metaphors of violent destruction for a victory...
    I dunno really, just doesn't sit especially well with me. In my mind it's a word that is best reserved for people who make contributions to things that are more meaningful than playing in games I suppose.

    Not a fan of the violent destruction metaphors either ftr.

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    I've never much liked it because I tend to associate the word 'genius' with intellect; most, if perhaps not all, sporting brilliance isn't intellectual in nature. Not sure if my interpretation of the word is right or not really but it's how I've always understood the word.
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    In a sporting context "genius" is just shorthand for "preternaturally gifted", to my way of thinking.

    An exponent of his art and/or craft who can do things that make one's pulse quicken and become aware one's witnessing something out of the mere quotidian. ABdeV's recent effort did that. Anyone who's ever watched cricket instinctively knew they were witnessing something special that only the very few who're blessed with something extraordinary could've achieved.
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    just watch AB bat in an ODI

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    I think the Don was clearly a genius.

    The money men from the big 3 are clearly evil geniuses.

    Dan Carter's performance against the 2005 Lions (probably the greatest performance I've seen by an individual in a team sport) was 80 minutes of genius:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciaKJZG6I3o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Messi.
    Funnily enough Zidane was the name I most closely associate with the term, but I would still prefer the notion of artistry rather than genius when describing him. Strange really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    So good.

    Given how he's not been around for a while now, and that his truly golden days were relatively short-lived, it's too easy to forget just how ridiculous he actually was.

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