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    Yeah I know 'talent' is another word some are not keen on around here but I can't believe many have had more than him.

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    Nah - this:

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    I had a massive headache when Atherton was explaining the difference between Murali and Warne and talking about how Warne was the more, intelligent thinking bowler who changed according to circumstances but Murali's huge spin had more 'genius'.

    I have no problem when say, a brilliant conscious ploy by a bowler against a batsman or a captain is called genius but my biggest gripe with it is that it is incredibly misused.
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    Get where sledger is coming from. A part of your brain sort of wants to reserve the word genius for people who perform acts which bring about incredible and hitherto unimaginable change in the world. Sporting geniuses, while bringing great joy to the world, even to the extent of becoming cultural and historical monuments, can somehow feel to be slightly lesser.

    Federer though...
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    Maradona the ultimate sporting evil genius - never have I found it so easy to detest a sporting icon, but **** me he could do things with a football no one else could

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    "What Zidane does with a ball, Maradona could do with an orange"
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    Platini is a massive ass, and, as perhaps the second best player of the 80s and of France overall, he has it all to gain from the above statement.

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    Interesting Sledger mentioned Zidane over Messi for genius, as that's what I was thinking. There's being incredibly skilful, such as Messi with the ball at his feet, but then there's dictacting the entire play, spotting passes that no-one thinks of - be that the footballer carving something out of nothing, or the tennis player who controls a whole rally to set up an easy point with his opponent hideously out of position.... Someone who can do that again and again has a level of genius to it
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    Wasn't Zidane in his prime sort of the same?

    What I'm most amazed with by Messi is that he's done it for 8 years now practically without a serious blip (I know staying at one club probably helps)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Halsey View Post
    I've never much liked it because I tend to associate the word 'genius' with intellect; most, if perhaps not all, sporting brilliance isn't intellectual in nature. Not sure if my interpretation of the word is right or not really but it's how I've always understood the word.
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    In a sporting context "genius" is just shorthand for "preternaturally gifted", to my way of thinking.

    An exponent of his art and/or craft who can do things that make one's pulse quicken and become aware one's witnessing something out of the mere quotidian. ABdeV's recent effort did that. Anyone who's ever watched cricket instinctively knew they were witnessing something special that only the very few who're blessed with something extraordinary could've achieved.
    A lot of who are referred to as genius in sports might do better under the heading of savant, I would venture.

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    Does this thread remind anyone else of this one: Why I will stop calling players talented: A discussion of terminology

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    When I think of genius and sport I think Federer and Lara. Probably Tiger in his prime.
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    Genius can refer to either intellect or talent. This is a weird thread.
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    i feel it can be used as a derivative of smart play or clever shots to manipulate field placings where i guess a term such as strategic genius is appropriate though it is not often used that way and is more used to describe talent or form

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