Another Honest Mistake, Another Australian :)

[Sanz]

Of Course it was not pre-meditated, and as usual an honest mistake. Even Ponting who wasn't even in the game knew that Martyn didn't mean it. Really great example of sportsmanship by him.
Dont worry - We all trust you, ICC trusts you, just like we trusted warnie when he slept with 'shiela' or when he was offered dollars for offering weather indormation in India, or banned for taking drugs. It was all honest mistake.
Way to go.

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Martyn warned over gesture

Damien Martyn has been reprimanded by Australia captain Ricky Ponting for raising his middle finger at a cameraman in Melbourne.
Martyn, who is under pressure following a run of low scores, made the gesture leaving the team hotel on Friday.

Cricket Australia authorities viewed footage of the incident and were satisfied the matter should be handled within the team.

Ponting said: ""I acknowledge he didn't mean to cause offence."

He added: "But his action was inappropriate and not fitting of an Australian player and ambassador for the game."

Martyn, who had arrested his poor form with a quickfire 42 against Zimbabwe the day before, was repentant.

"I am sorry for the offence caused by the gesture and apologise to the public who have seen it on TV," he said.

"My action was in no way pre-meditated, nor did I did I mean for it to cause any harm."

Vice-captain Adam Gilchrist gave Martyn his backing.

"He seems in pretty good spirits and I do know he got a pretty well compiled 40 the other day at about a run a ball and that will improve his spirits," Gilchrist said.

"There is no doubt that he has had a lot of focus on him and nobody likes that intense scrutiny."

Martyn is averaging 17 in the VB Series with scores of 0, 21, 47 not out, 1, 0, 9, 42 and 2.

He failed again on Sunday at his home ground in Perth despite Australia beating India by five wickets.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/3447535.stm

 

[age_master]

a stupid act and a stupid amount of attention is being placed on it, leave the poor guy alone...

 

[Salamuddin]

Of Course it was not pre-meditated, and as usual an honest mistake. Even Ponting who wasn't even in the game knew that Martyn didn't mean it. Really great example of sportsmanship by him.
Dont worry - We all trust you, ICC trusts you, just like we trusted warnie when he slept with 'shiela' or when he was offered dollars for offering weather indormation in India, or banned for taking drugs. It was all honest mistake.
Way to go.

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Martyn warned over gesture

Damien Martyn has been reprimanded by Australia captain Ricky Ponting for raising his middle finger at a cameraman in Melbourne.
Martyn, who is under pressure following a run of low scores, made the gesture leaving the team hotel on Friday.

Cricket Australia authorities viewed footage of the incident and were satisfied the matter should be handled within the team.

Ponting said: ""I acknowledge he didn't mean to cause offence."

He added: "But his action was inappropriate and not fitting of an Australian player and ambassador for the game."

Martyn, who had arrested his poor form with a quickfire 42 against Zimbabwe the day before, was repentant.

"I am sorry for the offence caused by the gesture and apologise to the public who have seen it on TV," he said.

"My action was in no way pre-meditated, nor did I did I mean for it to cause any harm."

Vice-captain Adam Gilchrist gave Martyn his backing.

"He seems in pretty good spirits and I do know he got a pretty well compiled 40 the other day at about a run a ball and that will improve his spirits," Gilchrist said.

"There is no doubt that he has had a lot of focus on him and nobody likes that intense scrutiny."

Martyn is averaging 17 in the VB Series with scores of 0, 21, 47 not out, 1, 0, 9, 42 and 2.

He failed again on Sunday at his home ground in Perth despite Australia beating India by five wickets.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/3447535.stm

Uh Oh....That's not gonna go down very well here especially with Linda.

 

[age_master]

Of Course it was not pre-meditated, and as usual an honest mistake. Even Ponting who wasn't even in the game knew that Martyn didn't mean it. Really great example of sportsmanship by him.
Dont worry - We all trust you, ICC trusts you, just like we trusted warnie when he slept with 'shiela' or when he was offered dollars for offering weather indormation in India, or banned for taking drugs. It was all honest mistake.
Way to go.

i dont like the tine of this bit at all either - i dunno about others but i find it a little offensive and its definatley unneccessary.

 

[Langeveldt]

Pah, heat of the moment stuff, leave him alone...

Im sure him sticking his middle finger up didnt greatly offend anyone, get real whoever is doing the nitpicking...

 

[Slow Love™]

Of Course it was not pre-meditated, and as usual an honest mistake. Even Ponting who wasn't even in the game knew that Martyn didn't mean it. Really great example of sportsmanship by him.
Dont worry - We all trust you, ICC trusts you, just like we trusted warnie when he slept with 'shiela' or when he was offered dollars for offering weather indormation in India, or banned for taking drugs. It was all honest mistake.
Way to go.

It was a stupid thing to do, and from what I read, Ponting dismissed it as inappropriate and stupid. That sounds pretty accurate to me, how would you have him describe it? It certainly wasn't described as an "honest mistake".

And what do you mean by "we all trust you, ICC trusts you"? Who is the "you" you're talking about?

 

[Jono]

It's kind of obvious what he's getting at if you read between the lines.

 

[Slow Love™]

It's kind of obvious what he's getting at if you read between the lines.

Is he talking about the Australian players? The Australian people, collectively?

Frankly, I think it's too incoherent to read between the lines as anything other than conspiracist bullcrap, because I don't see how it's relatable to the other incidents he mentions it in context with. Honestly, to me it seems like a ludicrous, prejudicial lot of nonsense (I can't actually see what the Alon woman, if that's what he means by "shiela" has to do with anything either).

Perhaps you can explain it to me, because I don't have the slightest idea what there is not to "trust" about the reaction to Martyn's gesture. Maybe I missed something.

 

[Slow Love™]

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i dont like the tone of this bit at all either - i dunno about others but i find it a little offensive and its definatley unneccessary.

Agreed. And you forgot to mention, highly stupid.

 

[Kenny]

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Agreed. And you forgot to mention, highly stupid.

very stupid.....the inference clearly is that the Australian cricket team are dishonest, or cheats - though how this relates to Martyn's finger gesture I'm not sure.
By way of comparison.......
How many Aussies have been caught for say........ball tampering in the last 20 years or so?

 

[Slow Love™]

very stupid.....the inference clearly is that the Australian cricket team are dishonest, or cheats - though how this relates to Martyn's finger gesture I'm not sure.
By way of comparison.......
How many Aussies have been caught for say........ball tampering in the last 20 years or so?

To be fair though, I don't think we have to go there. 'Cause Ponting's allusion to that pi$$ed me off as much as Sanz's clumsy inferences.

I just don't see the context with the Martyn incident. Yes, I get what he's referring to with Warne and the weather report. The ACB covered that up. As to Warne and the drugs, you could argue that the ACB was too lenient.

So far as the Alon woman goes, she was a nut looking for fame, and was charged with extortion by the South African police. I don't see how the ACB needs to have a stand on that, one way or another, and frankly, I don't know that Warne has to answer to "us" for that in the slightest.

Then there's Martyn's gesture - I have no idea how that fits into any of this. Are the nefarious motives behind him flipping the bird being covered up by the aussie cricket establishment and the press that kowtows to them, or worse still, MARTYN HIMSELF AND THE ENTIRE AUSTRALIAN TEAM? God help us, we need the truth on this, and fast. Or Sanz's (and the ICC's) trust will forever be lost.

 

[Sanz]

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By way of comparison.......
How many Aussies have been caught for say........ball tampering in the last 20 years or so?

Well How many times have we seen an Indian player using an Aluminium bat in an international game ? How many times have we seen an International Spinner taking 400 wickets with the help of Drugs ?

I am not even talking about claiming dropped catches of Lara and Dravid and then abusing the umpire after being given not out, or bowling underarm.

 

[Kenny]

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How many times have we seen an International Spinner taking 400 wickets with the help of Drugs ?

Now that is almost the most stupid comment you have made - but it has lots of competition. What an absolute dill.

BTW, Slater caught Dravid - cleanly. He was out. Should have walked, but what would you expect from a ball tamperer?

(That was a 'Sanz - like' comment, wasn't it?)

 

[Deja moo]

BTW, Slater caught Dravid - cleanly. He was out. Should have walked, but what would you expect from a ball tamperer?

Note to cricket web staff.......Put forward request to appoint Kenny as the official Cricketweb 3rd umpire, seeing that he's doing so better a job than the actual umpires ....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

[V Reddy]

I think Sanz was having a go at the Aussies who said Ganguly was a cheat b'coz of Slow over rate and for calling Dravid a cheat but it doesn't go down well with the Aussies and especially Linda for quoting Martyn's example

 

[Sanz]

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BTW, Slater caught Dravid - cleanly. He was out. Should have walked, but what would you expect from a ball tamperer?

(That was a 'Sanz - like' comment, wasn't it?)

That's why we have archives and third Umpires :-

http://statserver.cricket.org/link_...RDS/AUS_IND_T1_27FEB-03MAR2001_BBB-COMMS.html

53.3 Fleming to Dravid, no run, short ball, pulls it, Slater dives
forward and takes it off the bounce and claims to have caught it,
goes to the 3rd umpire and decided not out



Now we all know who was a Cheat. Slater is such a :saint:

 

[Sanz]

Or may be in Australia they consider 'off bounce' catches as clean. I have heard they also consider HBW(head before wicket) as LBW.

 

[Andre]

a stupid act and a stupid amount of attention is being placed on it, leave the poor guy alone...

Spot on. It's a nothing issue and it's really very sad that so much attention is being paid to it.

 

[Andre]

Or may be in Australia they consider 'off bounce' catches as clean. I have heard they also consider HBW(head before wicket) as LBW.

So does the rules.

Any part of the body apart from the hands can be hit infront of the stumps and given out.

It's just more common that it hits the pad, hence the term LBW.

 

[Don Ricardo]

Anyone who thinks that tendulkar was unfairly given out lbw due to the fact the ball hit him on the head has no idea about the rules of cricket. The only questionable issue was the height, but the side on shot showed that the ball hit tendulkar no higher than bail height and was actually on its way down- the replays and freeze frames prove that the umps decision was correct.