Who are the most underated and overated players

[marc71178]

Overrated - Marcus Trescothick: he only makes runs against weak teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh...

Only? Was I dreaming he scored that double against Pollock et al?

Heath Streak, Chaminda Vaas and Chanderpaul also deserve more respect because they too often have to carry their teams against the top sides in the world

Apart from Vaas and Chanderpaul, I'd agree!

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Apart from Vaas and Chanderpaul, I'd agree!

You don't consider Chanderpaul under-rated?

Over-rated:

For each country.

Australia - NSW, MacGill, Gilchrist.
England - Collingwood, Croft.
India - Sehwag.
Pakistan - Hameed (still a big fan though).
Sri Lanka - pass...
Zimbabwe - pass...
New Zealand - pass...
South Africa - Hall, Smith.
West Indies - no one is rated highly enough to be over-rated... except for Lara and Chanderpaul, neither of whom are.

Under-rated:

Australia - Symonds.
England - Butcher.
India - Dravid (dare I say).
Pakistan - Saqlain.
Sri Lanka - Atapattu.
Zimbabwe - Streak, Taibu, Ervine.
New Zealand - Richardson, Hitchcock.
South Africa - Kallis, Ntini, Nel, Pollock.
West Indies - Chanderpaul, Jacobs, Collymore.

 

[marc71178]

You don't consider Chanderpaul under-rated?

No, I don't consider that he has to carry the Windies side.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

No, I don't consider that he has to carry the Windies side.

In that case I agree.

 

[Langeveldt]

Over Rated

Ashish Nehra
Parthiv Patel
Tatenda Taibu
Nasser Hussain



Under Rated

Makhaya Ntini
Mark Richardson
Saqlain Mushtaq
Mushtaq Ahmed
Rahul Dravid
Jacques Kallis

 

[Tim]

Fair call on Rahul Dravid...in India anyway he probably doesn't get the recognition he deserves because of the flashy style of batting that Sehwag & Tendulkar bring to the game.

 

[Salamuddin]

Overrated - Marcus Trescothick: he only makes runs against weak teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh...
- The whole Indian cricket team: they were flogged in every away series prior to the Australian tour...

Underrated - Darren Lehmann: he has a massive amount of 1st class runs and can bowl pretty well and would captain most international one day sides
- Heath Streak, Chaminda Vaas and Chanderpaul also deserve more respect because they too often have to carry their teams against the top sides in the world

If the Indian team is so overrated, how come Australia were not able to beat them in the test series playing at home ?

After all Australia are the world champions.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Over Rated

Ashish Nehra
Parthiv Patel
Tatenda Taibu
Nasser Hussain

I wouldn't say Taibu or Hussain are rated highly enough to be called over-rated. Anyway, IMO Taibu is a superb wicketkeeper at this stage and will get better very fast.

Hussain has always been a solid batsman and I don't see people calling him anymore. He certainly wasn't over-rated as a captain.

 

[marc71178]

If the Indian team is so overrated, how come Australia were not able to beat them in the test series playing at home ?

I believe he's more talking about the over-hyping of the Indian XI based on basically 1 series of good performances.

They need to follow it up with more good results to justify some of the comments surrounding them.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Comments like Gavaskar's of India being #1 in the World - that is definite over-rating.

 

[Langeveldt]

I believe he's more talking about the over-hyping of the Indian XI based on basically 1 series of good performances.

They need to follow it up with more good results to justify some of the comments surrounding them.

Agreed, I also want to see them win in South Africa.. Then we will know who the number 2 side in the world is

 

[Salamuddin]

South Africa may be on a high at the moment but I fancy they will flop big time when they play Australia again -- paricularly their bowling.

 

[Choora]

Over-rated = Indian top 6, bar Sachin of course.

What??? David over-rated? Laxman/Sehwag over-rated?:O

I think only Ganguly is over-rated.

 

[Choora]

Overated -- Shane Bond. No doubt that the guy can bowl fast and is talented but comments like "when fit he's the best fast bowler" seems to be highly inappropriate.

 

[Deja moo]

over rated.....Inzamam
Smith
Bond





Under rated.....Dravid
Kirsten
ganguly

 

[hyounis786]

Overrated: P.Patel (sure he has potential, but recently he's missed so many simple stumpings)

A.Nehra (bowls pies, rivals tuffnel with batting and fielding ability-some much for a star paceman to propel india to future world domination)

T.Taibu (hes actually pretty good, just not as good as a lot of people make him out to be. in the thread on wicketkeeprs some considered him to be the best in the world- thats over the top. in the vb series he seems to fumble a lot keeping up to the spinners. his batting aint that great either)

Underrated: B. Williams (a lot of people on this forum seem to knock him- hes been close to the most effective aussie bowler all summer, and he always puts in in the outfield)

totally agree with u bud, taibu is definately underated, the first time i noticed him was when zimbabwe came to england last yr i think.from there onwards i knew he was going to emerge as a fine w/k although many commentators did not speak of his significance on the zimbabwe team.fairly short, but with a heart of gold this lad, quick in the air, gr8 reflexes and agility. he is the player who has not been recognised for his talent. is it just a few ppl who recognise his talent or issit just me overating him?

 

[Salamuddin]

Under-rated = West Indian top 6.
Over-rated = Indian top 6, bar Sachin of course.

Why exactly are the Indian top 6 overrated ?

Because they had problems playing at the WACA....well every set of batsmen have their own weaknesses ...didn't Australia, "the world's best batting line-up" flop miserably on India's turning wickets ?

 

[bhooth nath]

most overrated -

india - sachin tendulkar
vvs laxman
saurav ganguly
parthiv patel
pakistan - shoaib akhtar
mohammed sami
shahid afridi
sri lanka - sanath jayasuriya
australia - brett lee
shane warne
micheal clarke
new zealand - shane bond
daniel vettori
england - steve harmison
marcus trescothick
south africa - greame smith
westindies - chris gayle
fidel edwards
bangladesh - hannan sarker

most underrated -

india - irfan pathan
laxmipathy balaji
ashish nehra
anil kumble
rahul dravid
yuvraj singh
pakistan - umer gul
inzamam ul-haq
asim kamal
bangladesh - mohammed rafique
manzarul islam
sri lanka - chaminda vaas
australia - brad williams
zimbabwe - tatenda taibu
tinashe panyangara
elton chigumbara
new zealand - jacob oram
darryl tuffey
england - andrew flintoff
south africa - jacques kallis

 

[chicane]

most overrated -

india - sachin tendulkar
vvs laxman
saurav ganguly
pakistan - shoaib akhtar
sri lanka - sanath jayasuriya
shane warne
south africa - greame smith
westindies - chris gayle
fidel edwards

Not one of these men is overrated.

most underrated -
ashish nehra
manzarul islam
tinashe panyangara
elton chigumbara

Yeah right!

 

[superkingdave]

most underrated -

elton chigumbara

I presume your not just basing this on the one innnings against Australia. Had you ever heard of him before?