lol...hmm can you guess what country the guy that made the site is from?FRAZ said:Huh . I dont know why people are so against Shoaib Akhtar .I saw a website where It was written that he is an illegal bowler and in the legal list only these three bowlers are top 3
1. Nehra 149+ speed and extremely accurate
2. Zaheer Khan 148+ and best swinger in the world
3. Ajit Agarkar. 147+ and the best nippy action in the world
And that site was also saing Sami is the worst youngster introduced and he will be achuker soon
and that site was claiming Shoaib is not a bowler he is just an other creature which is not a bowler but looks like one.
Waoh what a great comment and actually that site was a very prestigeous web site of that big country . I mean Mongolia . lolololol
Cairns has found some good batting form,and hes bowling o.k but nothing special.anzac said:not wanting to put the mockers on anything but from memory isn't Dizzy the only 'quick' to have made a 'successful' career after major injury in recent times???? and to do so he is now off a shorter run, different action & a reduction in pace.......
Gough didn't last out his comeback series.....
Caddick is still yet to make his return....
Cairns has yet to find any form......(not that he was ever a 'quick')..
Allott, Nash & O'Connor all failed......
Bond may not be the same bowler again..........
OK Nehra and Agarkar probably have never bowled above 147+ before. They are only medium-fast.FRAZ said:Huh . I dont know why people are so against Shoaib Akhtar .I saw a website where It was written that he is an illegal bowler and in the legal list only these three bowlers are top 3
1. Nehra 149+ speed and extremely accurate
2. Zaheer Khan 148+ and best swinger in the world
3. Ajit Agarkar. 147+ and the best nippy action in the world
And that site was also saing Sami is the worst youngster introduced and he will be achuker soon
and that site was claiming Shoaib is not a bowler he is just an other creature which is not a bowler but looks like one.
Waoh what a great comment and actually that site was a very prestigeous web site of that big country . I mean Mongolia . lolololol
Given that I assume you aren't saying he's better than McGrath, Pollock, Gillespie etc. I think you need to consider the fact that there's no significant difference between fast and fast-medium.Sanz said:When Fit, I rate him the best Fast bowler in the World right now. When is he going to be fit again ??
BlackCap_Fan said:Cairns has found some good batting form,and hes bowling o.k but nothing special.
Give him time,hes been out for 2 years.
Anyone can come up with a website like that, that doesn't mean anyting.FRAZ said:Huh . I dont know why people are so against Shoaib Akhtar .I saw a website where It was written that he is an illegal bowler and in the legal list only these three bowlers are top 3
1. Nehra 149+ speed and extremely accurate
2. Zaheer Khan 148+ and best swinger in the world
3. Ajit Agarkar. 147+ and the best nippy action in the world
And that site was also saing Sami is the worst youngster introduced and he will be achuker soon
and that site was claiming Shoaib is not a bowler he is just an other creature which is not a bowler but looks like one.
Waoh what a great comment and actually that site was a very prestigeous web site of that big country . I mean Mongolia . lolololol
YES HE WAS!Cairns has yet to find any form......(not that he was ever a 'quick')..
If he was then it must have been for a shortish time very early in his career......thierry henry said:YES HE WAS!
As a teenager he was considered by many to be the best, and possibly the fastest, young paceman in the world. That was why he was brought into the New Zealand team at 19- he was big, raw, and fast. Cairns was supposed to be a genuine fast bowling all-rounder who batted 7 or 8, but of course injury after injury changed all that. Don't forget that as recently as 1999 he was bowling in the 140s in England.
Mcgrath, Pollock aren't really Express fast bowlers like BOND, Lee, Akhtar, Sami etc. The difference between Fast and medium fast is only 20 KMPH. Gillespie isn't the force he used to be. Based on what I have seen of Bond, Yes he is better than Jason Gillespie roght now.Richard said:Given that I assume you aren't saying he's better than McGrath, Pollock, Gillespie etc. I think you need to consider the fact that there's no significant difference between fast and fast-medium.
Bond has not proven that much in a Test career to date. In 4 serious Test-series, he's had 2 successes and 2 failures and 1 of the successes was in incredibly seam-friendly conditions.
When he gets fit we'll see how good he really is, hopefully.
Well, you said he was never a "quick", I'd say that a 140+ bowler is very much a "quick". Certainly Cairns was regarded as NZ's potential next big thing-whether or not he would have been a 150 kph+ bowler is not clear, although considering he hit 146 in England in 1999 despite the accumulation of injuries over the years stunting his progress, it seems possible.anzac said:If he was then it must have been for a shortish time very early in his career......
I do remember both him and Nash as being touted as the best new ball / 'quick' prospects since Brendon Bracewell...but I must admit that while I can remember Cairns bowling in the 140 ks, I can not remember him averaging above 145 ks consistantly, let alone bowling above the 150 kph mark......
IMO this does not make him a genuine 'quick', as opposed to having been a good FMED & able to generate some good quicker deliveries......
even b4 the Tour to England his speed was in the mid - higher 130 ks......I don't recall him being a mid 140 k average in the VB series when Wilson partnered him back in the early '90s, & unfortunately 1999 in England was the last time he was fully fit b4 his subsequent injuries on the ZIM & RSA Tours - since then his best that I can recall has been in the 130s...........& he is definately more of a Medium than Fast bowler these days so far as his average speed goes, with the occaisional quicker delivery.....much as Nash did after his injuries.....
Possibly.Sanz said:Mcgrath, Pollock aren't really Express fast bowlers like BOND, Lee, Akhtar, Sami etc. The difference between Fast and medium fast is only 20 KMPH. Gillespie isn't the force he used to be. Based on what I have seen of Bond, Yes he is better than Jason Gillespie roght now.
Do you think that could be because McGrath is actually a phenomenal bowler?Richard said:Let's wait and see in Sri Lanka before thinking he's been worked-out. It still hasn't happened with McGrath yet.