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    Let's say we get a new Bradman...what happens?

    Will people be able to believe it or handle it?

    I think people around my age will agree Bradman is almost like a legendary hero more than a real cricketer to my generation. We know he's real of course, but if he was a fictional character he would shatter the suspension of disbelief.

    Maybe I'm just cynical, but I think the New Bradman would cop heat like no other player has. We already have people trying very hard to discredit the achievements of "normal" all time greats (and Bradman himself) but the immediacy of a modern player averaging 100 would draw in all manner of boring people trying to prove he's secretly mediocre.

    What do you think the effect on global sporting culture would be? Bradman was running around in a quieter time, before sportsmen were multi-million dollar stars broadcast on telly 24/7. Bradman was talked about, and if you were lucky enough to live in Australia or England, you could go and watch him but otherwise you were **** out of luck and had to read a book or something. A player dominating to the extent Bradman did would be more in your face than Bradman himself was thanks to modern media.

    Would we see the New Bradman coming? I don't know if they saw the old one coming, but someone that good would be so advanced by their mid teens they would probably get a test gig like Sachin did yeah?

    Finally, would any team with a New Bradman immediately become the best side in the world?

    Personally I suspect the only thing holding a modern Bradman from being the "biggest" sportsman of all time would be the relatively smaller stature of cricket in global sport. Because it's almost non-existent in continental Europe, big parts of Asia and America then maybe he wouldn't be as big as Tiger Woods or Michael Schumacher. Regardless of that though I think he would be huge, but also take a very long time to become accepted as the real deal because so many would be waiting for him to fail even after 5+ years.
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    We would get used to it in the end. Rather like football has got used to Messi and Ronaldo, it just becomes normal after a while. I know Bradman is even more stupid than those two but it would go the same way I imagine.
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    Not a bad discussion at all. Very dependent on where the individual came from, as to whether he was a mega-star.

    I have one question though - if new Bradman came from India, would Tendulkar still be considered better than him?
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    He'll definitely be called a flat-track bully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Not a bad discussion at all. Very dependent on where the individual came from, as to whether he was a mega-star.

    I have one question though - if new Bradman came from India, would Tendulkar still be considered better than him?
    Who knows, because the fundamental lack of intellectual integrity required in "Tendulkar > Bradman" is such that anything is possible under a framework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Who knows, because the fundamental lack of intellectual integrity required in "Tendulkar > Bradman" is such that anything is possible under a framework.
    Exactly my point, sir.

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    I have a feeling Kohli may end up rivalling Tendulkar in tests and odis so you could say a "new bradman." But he has to go from strength to strength for next 10 years. I can't say we have seen another Sachin yet, he was truly the best. I know this thread is about finding another Don, but many of us don't view him as the best, for me it's whether there will be another Sachin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_183* View Post
    I have a feeling Kohli may end up rivalling Tendulkar in tests and odis so you could say a "new bradman."
    No, you'd say he's the new Sachin. Unless he rivals Bradman, then you'd say he's the new Bradman.


    As Spark states, theres such a lack of integrity when comparing legendary players of the past, such as Bradman, to the next generation of great players such as Tendulkar. It reminds me of online IQ testing - anyone can find a criteria set that gives them the result they want, but if whenever you open your mouth all you come out with is ****, then the results have no basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_183* View Post
    I have a feeling Kohli may end up rivalling Tendulkar in tests and odis so you could say a "new bradman." But he has to go from strength to strength for next 10 years. I can't say we have seen another Sachin yet, he was truly the best. I know this thread is about finding another Don, but many of us don't view him as the best, for me it's whether there will be another Sachin.
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    The thing about Bradman is that it's just so vastly beyond anything we've ever experienced that it's pretty much incomprehensible by definition. You basically have to take the productivity of Smith/Kohli recently and then multiply to every single series, on average, for the next 15 years to get even a crude approximation.
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    Can we talk about the New Bradman pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    The thing about Bradman is that it's just so vastly beyond anything we've ever experienced that it's pretty much incomprehensible by definition. You basically have to take the productivity of Smith/Kohli recently and then multiply to every single series, on average, for the next 15 years to get even a crude approximation.
    Yeah this is the thing, and why it would be so fascinating for another to appear in modern cricket. I'm not sure if I could process a guy averaging 100. It's like those people who force-crash and restart the ICC games until their batsman has a century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhoni_183* View Post
    I have a feeling Kohli may end up rivalling Tendulkar in tests and odis so you could say a "new bradman." But he has to go from strength to strength for next 10 years. I can't say we have seen another Sachin yet, he was truly the best. I know this thread is about finding another Don, but many of us don't view him as the best, for me it's whether there will be another Sachin.


    Kohli will not be the new Bradman just like Tendulkar was never the new Bradman

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