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Jonbrooks chucking Megathread

cnerd123

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Yay what point do you just get banned from bowling completely?

Letting Hafeez continue at this point is just ridiculous imo
 

Daemon

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imo once you hold the boards responsible for allowing illegal actions to turn out for their respective countries, we might see a great reduction in the number of dodgy actions.

I can't really think of a good penalty unfortunately.
 

Daemon

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How so? If anything it's the opposite. The testing worked for him because it confirmed he was chucking.
Lots of people have argued in this thread that it doesn't actually prevent anyone from chucking because once they pass the rehab they go back and start chucking again.
 

TheJediBrah

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Lots of people have argued in this thread that it doesn't actually prevent anyone from chucking because once they pass the rehab they go back and start chucking again.
I see. I guess you can't really argue against that can you?

I was thinking more along the lines of players just changing their actions slightly when they get tested so that they come within limits
 

cnerd123

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There is also the argument that since they don't test 'clean' looking bowlers (or if they do, these results are not public) so we don't know if the testing is actually working as it should. It could be widely inconsistent (test the same bowler twice, get two different results) or it could be way inaccurate (everyone might be found to be exceeding limits if tested)

Hafeez passing and then failing repeatedly would suggest that any rehab he does to his action just doesn't stick, or that he's bowling the same way throughout except sometimes he passes and sometimes he fails - the tests are inconsistent.
 

TheJediBrah

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There is also the argument that since they don't test 'clean' looking bowlers (or if they do, these results are not public) so we don't know if the testing is actually working as it should. It could be widely inconsistent (test the same bowler twice, get two different results) or it could be way inaccurate (everyone might be found to be exceeding limits if tested)

Hafeez passing and then failing repeatedly would suggest that any rehab he does to his action just doesn't stick, or that he's bowling the same way throughout except sometimes he passes and sometimes he fails - the tests are inconsistent.
until they can monitor bowling actions in game with acceptable accuracy I can't see any form of testing really doing anything to prevent chucking other than appease people, or allow the authorities to say "hey at least we tried".

Granted it's rooted out a few extreme cases like Ajmal but it's impossible to know how many a slipping through the cracks
 

Migara

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Hafeez's problem comes not from trying to spin the ball too much, or to bowl it quick like others. Hafeez's strength is the late release of the ball. He releases it early in his usual deliveries and pauses ever so slightly to drag the ball down in some deliveries. In my observations, this pause is the issue. And without the pause, he will not be the same bowler as well.
 

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