A bloke on my facebook feed works in the broadcast box, and reckons Heals asked for his stats to be shown on screen the other day 'as no one remembers how good I was'
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Top Five Most Underrated Cricketers Ever.
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MrPrez
International Debutant
Pollock's biggest three problems imo were that he was overshadowed by Donald in the SA team, he was overshadowed by McGrath in the accurate seam bowler department, and that he fell off pretty hard at the end of his career.
Anyway,
Kallis
Proctor
Laxman
Waqar Younis
Stuart MacGill
Gary Kirsten
Justin Langer
Javagal Srinath
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Ian Bishop
Simon Doull
Simon Doull
flibbertyjibber
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To be fair those who remember him haven't forgotten but the way Gilchrist is spoken about the younger generations wouldn't hear about how good Healy was. It was great growing up watching keepers like Healy and Russell and then you have keepers today who are awful glovemen in comparison. In fairness wasn't the lad Berry in Australia meant to be as good if not better with the gloves but couldn't bat? Never saw him myself but the reports on him say he was excellent.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Wayne Daniel - shafted by Clive Lloyd for what must have been personal reasons.
Pat Pocock - no other off-spinner should have played for England when he was available.
Pat Pocock - no other off-spinner should have played for England when he was available.
Coronis
Cricketer Of The Year
Herb Sutcliffe. Test average was over 60 for his entire career, never averaged under 50 against Australia. Small matter of 151 first class centuries too. Underrated because he played with Hobbs. Grimmett too. didn't start playing tests til he was 33 and still found time to become the fastest player to 200 test wickets. Averaged lower than Warne, took more wickets per match than pretty much anyone (Barnes the only one I can think of, maybe Murali). Did all this whilst in the company of another ATG spinner, and during their partnership took more wickets at a better average than O'Reilly. Match figures in his last match at age 44 before being dropped were 13/173 (compared to O'Reilly's 4/106).
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ImpatientLime
International Regular
lol there are some ****house calls in this thread
kallis and sanga underrated? bloody hell.
kallis and sanga underrated? bloody hell.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
A lot of people have mentioned Shaun Pollock here. I am not sure Pollock is underrated tbh. Sure, he took a lot of wickets at a great average. However, his strike rate wasn't the greatest. He was more of a holder compared to a Donald, Ambrose or McGrath. He is rightly put behind the best bowlers of the best 5-6 fast bowlers of the 90s. Around 1996, Pollock was pretty amazing. He was pacy, was at you. He then had an injury (?) (memory doesn't serve me well here) and slowed down a little.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Depends on the definition. If you think Kallis is the cricketer of the generation, then he is underrated.
Underrated does not mean they are not rated highly. It means they are better than most people think they are.
Kallis is a great example of this.
OverratedSanity
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Wait what
I'm guessing it's a typo, but saying someone else is the cricketer of the generation isn't flat out objectively wrong, surely.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I do not understand your point, its not a matter of right/wrong.
If you think Sanga or Kallis is, say a top 3 bat of the last 20 years (purely just an example). Say you think they're on par or better than Ponting, Tendulkar and Lara. The majority of the cricketing world do not agree with that, but that same majority still rates Sanga or Kallis extremely highly.
You can still think Sanga or Kallis is underrated by the cricketing world, even if they are still rated extremely highly by most people.
Red
The normal awards that everyone else has
Berry was a great keeper but not particularly better than Healy. And Healy was a far better batsman.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
pre-injury Jimmy Franks.
Mike Procter
Sylvester Clarke
Alan Davidson
Keith Miller
Stuart Macgill
Barry Richards I wouldn't say is underrated, I think most rate him very highly. Thought about Clive Rice but he never played a test but he was up there with the top 80s all rounders. Gilchrist I think is underrated as a keeper and botham I think gets a bit underrated because of his decline but they are still rated highly. Steve Waugh and Darren Lehmann I reckon are underrated as well. From current players Shakib is underrated but he still has a lot of time left and I reckon Herath is a top tier spinner.
Sylvester Clarke
Alan Davidson
Keith Miller
Stuart Macgill
Barry Richards I wouldn't say is underrated, I think most rate him very highly. Thought about Clive Rice but he never played a test but he was up there with the top 80s all rounders. Gilchrist I think is underrated as a keeper and botham I think gets a bit underrated because of his decline but they are still rated highly. Steve Waugh and Darren Lehmann I reckon are underrated as well. From current players Shakib is underrated but he still has a lot of time left and I reckon Herath is a top tier spinner.
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Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
People talk of Wasim being an alltime great and people barely mention Pollock anymore. They have comparable bowling stats (av, wickets, SR etc). I rate Pollock higher but even somebody else doesnt the difference isnt great. Pollock is either massively underrated, Wasim massively overrated or a combination of both.
Pollock was a special bowler. 10 of his 16 fifers were 5 or more wickets for 50 or fewer runs. Wasim - to continue the comparison - has 8 out of 25. Pollock could destroy a lineup when he was hitting areas at good pace and giving nothing away. Pollock's legacy probably hurt in the same way Donald's has been by ordinary stats against Australia.
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