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    A couple of nice articles on the ICC crackdown on chucking


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    I'm unsurprised that the ICC have gone this way. It's been known for over 10 years that the biomechanical modelling required to do in-game testing to scientific standards needed research but without actual real-deal dollars, the UWA obviously aren't going to do it. The ICC essentially responded to Elliott's review in 2006 with "He's a witch!" and have instead taken the existing methods, are likely doing them wrong but have cloaked them in secrecy so we'll never know for sure.

    I dunno who the first will be to take them on but I doubt I'm going out on a limb in saying that the first guy to sue after being thrown out of the game may just get up. One wonder who the new testing providers are and whether there's any relationship to individual ICC persons too. The whole situation smells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    I'm unsurprised that the ICC have gone this way. It's been known for over 10 years that the biomechanical modelling required to do in-game testing to scientific standards needed research but without actual real-deal dollars, the UWA obviously aren't going to do it. The ICC essentially responded to Elliott's review in 2006 with "He's a witch!" and have instead taken the existing methods, are likely doing them wrong but have cloaked them in secrecy so we'll never know for sure.

    I dunno who the first will be to take them on but I doubt I'm going out on a limb in saying that the first guy to sue after being thrown out of the game may just get up. One wonder who the new testing providers are and whether there's any relationship to individual ICC persons too. The whole situation smells.
    On what basis have you made the claim that they are likely to be doing them wrong.
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    Probably on the basis that lack of transparency usually hides no good, and also the historical records of ICC's uselessness.
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    Sounds a lot like ICC has decided to "guide" the science as far as testing techniques go. Classic dictatorial stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    On what basis have you made the claim that they are likely to be doing them wrong.
    its the icc

    those guys were chucking. so the testing is getting the right result, but i can't disagree that they've likely ****ed up bigtime somewhere, being the incompetents they are
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    Slightly related, just got an iPhone 6 and was playing with the slow-mo video during training. was completely shocked when i saw footage of my action. Beginning remedial work asap.

    I suggest the ICC use slow motion videos and Dr Velocity's superior judgement to crack down on chuckers. It's better than the farce that the system is now.

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    An easier solution will be to employ Mr. Hair and Dr. Velocity as the 2 field umpires and revert back to the old policy of umpire's calling. In case of any technical / visibility / moral / ethical / religious difficulty they can refer to the third umpire jonbrooks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Slightly related, just got an iPhone 6 and was playing with the slow-mo video during training. was completely shocked when i saw footage of my action. Beginning remedial work asap.

    I suggest the ICC use slow motion videos and Dr Velocity's superior judgement to crack down on chuckers. It's better than the farce that the system is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    Probably on the basis that lack of transparency usually hides no good, and also the historical records of ICC's uselessness.
    So what are you suggesting, the ICC tested Ajmal and blindfolded him so he didn't know what was happening.

    Everyone seems happy with the ICC except UWA, but then again why do the ICC have to answer any questions from the UWA.

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    I don't know but the only other expert in the field is probably someone we should consider the opinion of. We haven't even been advised of how the ICC are testing the players.

    I'm all for cracking down on players but it still has to be done correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    I don't know but the only other expert in the field is probably someone we should consider the opinion of. We haven't even been advised of how the ICC are testing the players.

    I'm all for cracking down on players but it still has to be done correctly.
    Its only the UWA that is complaining and they have no interest in this. The boards of the players being tested all seem happy and are part of the ICC and have access to everything. People are blindly sprouting garbage from the UWA that has no relevance to the issue.

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    The UWA are the former testers, they believe the current testing is incorrect. This is extremely relevant. It's a scientific process and they are experts in that field.

    We don't even know who is actually doing the current tests nor how they do so. Why hide this?

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