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If we want to get into hypotheticals:
1. It should've been 3-0 in NZ. (Shillinford chucking, Bravo gloving a ball).
2. It would've been 3-0 in Windies too had NZ picked Wagner and Jeets made himself available. The Windies mightn't have played their best team but neither did we.
Last edited by hendrix; 26-08-2014 at 06:19 PM.
Seriously, two series, home and away. New Zealand take it 4-1 (would've been 5-1 had it not pissed down on the last afternoon) and their is still debate over who the better team is?
Classic hendrix, Jeets plays and they win 3-0
But seriously I'm not sure Wagner or Jeets would've made as much as a difference compared to Sodhi/Craig as Narine would have made compared to Shillingford, just my opinion.
And the debate isn't about who the better team is but over how significant selection was, you don't have to go around flexing your muscles all the time howsie
Screw Jeets, I name Vettori. He would have made all the differences ever. His ton and 5/50 would have comprehensively destroyed the West Indies and I know this because of his record from years and years back against them (maybe, I haven't checked). Plus Ryder being in the squad would have magically made Rudds and Fults lift their game and smash tons.
Unavailabilities through injuries or whatever happen and good teams either have a replacement or the rest can make up for the poor player who comes in. New Zealand had two droppable players in Fulton and Rutherford and four very new players in Latham, Neesham, Sodhi and Craig and still won. While the rest of the players range from good to world class, if a team with world class and good players of their own in the side are reliant on a very new spinner to win a series against the above then well...
The West Indies have one of if not the most spin friendly domestic competition in the world so if spin bowling let them down then Narine or no Narine they can only look at themselves.
Lets not forget that Ryder averages 100 against the West Indies by using the same logic as what Narine fans use against us then he would of devastated the WI bowling lineup as his average is ridiculously good.
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