Mathew Hayden vs Virender Sehwag

[Riggins]

1 is questionable, and you cannot prove 2.

Even if you could prove 2 I feel like Sehwag would be miles ahead too.

 

[Contra]

In terms of results I'd say they are pretty close together, but man Sehwag had serious ability has a player, its just unfortunate that he didn't care enough to capitalize on the tremendous gift he had. But I suppose that was part of his charm as a player, to not give a **** about what other people thought of him and his ability.

 

[Blocky]

Sehwag in short form cricket, absolutely.
Hayden in long form cricket but only just.

Check Sehwag's averages where conditions didn't suit batting - i.e New Zealand, England, South Africa.
Check Haydens.

There is your answer. Had Hayden batted in Indian conditions his entire career he would have easily surpassed the run scoring of Sehwag in my view.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I'd have it the other way round, tbh. Hayden was a lot more consistent than the hit or miss Sehwag in ODIs.

 

[J_C]

Sehwag in short form cricket, absolutely.
Hayden in long form cricket but only just.

Check Sehwag's averages where conditions didn't suit batting - i.e New Zealand, England, South Africa.
Check Haydens.

There is your answer. Had Hayden batted in Indian conditions his entire career he would have easily surpassed the run scoring of Sehwag in my view.

orly?

In that case, check Sangakkara's average where conditions didn't suit batting i.e. NZ, England and SA

Check SRT's

Quite clearly, SRT has twice as many runs at a much better average, superior strike rate and a better 100/innings ratio in conditions that don't suit batting

Had SRT batted in and around Colombo his entire career he would have easily surpassed Sangakkara's run scoring!

 

[OverratedSanity]

Sehwag in short form cricket, absolutely.
Hayden in long form cricket but only just.

Check Sehwag's averages where conditions didn't suit batting - i.e New Zealand, England, South Africa.
Check Haydens.

There is your answer. Had Hayden batted in Indian conditions his entire career he would have easily surpassed the run scoring of Sehwag in my view.

Sehwag averages 25 and Hayden 33 I'm those three countries combined. None of them were particularly good at all so holding that as a tiebreaker is weird.

I'd have it the other way round, tbh. Hayden was a lot more consistent than the hit or miss Sehwag in ODIs.

Yeah, this.

 

[OverratedSanity]

orly?

In that case, check Sangakkara's average where conditions didn't suit batting i.e. NZ, England and SA

Check SRT's

Quite clearly, SRT has twice as many runs at a much better average, superior strike rate and a better 100/innings ratio in conditions that don't suit batting

Had SRT batted in and around Colombo his entire career he would have easily surpassed Sangakkara's run scoring!

Haha this is beautiful. Just shows how you can pick and choose certain stats to big up a player and use the same stats to pull down others

 

[Blocky]

orly?

In that case, check Sangakkara's average where conditions didn't suit batting i.e. NZ, England and SA

Check SRT's

Quite clearly, SRT has twice as many runs at a much better average, superior strike rate and a better 100/innings ratio in conditions that don't suit batting

Had SRT batted in and around Colombo his entire career he would have easily surpassed Sangakkara's run scoring!

-yawn-

is not keeper 2000-2014 12 24 2 1166 156* 53.00 2308 50.51 5 5 1 144 3

 

[cnerd123]

-yawn-

is not keeper 2000-2014 12 24 2 1166 156* 53.00 2308 50.51 5 5 1 144 3

Sanga would quite possibly not even be an international cricketer if he wasn't a keeper and most certainly wouldn't have been as good a batsman as he is now if he hadn't kept wicket for SL so IDK why you keep bringing this stat up. Utterly meaningless.

But I digress, wrong thread for this debate

 

[OverratedSanity]

If Sanga hadn't been keeper, he wouldn't have had the chance to study Murali's offie - top spinner-doosra variations from the best possible viewpoint, which is what he says helped him play Ajmal so perfectly.

So , obviously, he would have been rubbish against pakistan if he hadn't been keeper. Chop 10 points off the average atleast imo

 

[cnerd123]

If Sanga hadn't been keeper, he wouldn't have had the chance to study Murali's offie - top spinner-doosra variations from the best possible viewpoint, which is what he says helped him play Ajmal so perfectly.

So , obviously, he would have been rubbish against pakistan if he hadn't been keeper. Chop 10 points off the average atleast imo

What that is true, I was thinking more along the lines of would Sanga had made the SL team as a pure batsman alone? He was picked as a keeper after all.

Also, would Sanga be as boss as he is now if he didn't have those few years in the side as a wicketkeeper to face top quality international bowling and learn from it?

Also, a man as smart and well-spoken as Sanga has other opportunities - if he wasn't a keeper and didn't break the side at 22, but instead had to toil for a few more years in the domestic circuit, he could have very possibly gotten frustrated and disillusion with the SL Cricket. For all we know he could have quit cricket to pursue other careers, or gone to somewhere like England (where he would have fit in pretty easily) and pursed a career as a professional there.

Just so many ifs and buts, it just makes no sense considering Sanga's career without the keeper gloves.

 

[akilana]

Rubbish post.

 

[viriya]

As is appropriate this thread has been taken over by Sanga fever as well.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Hayden's Weakness

In England

2001-2005

10

18

2

552

138

34.50

1085

50.87

1

1

2

80

2

In New Zealand

2000-2005

4

7

0

197

61

28.14

385

51.16

0

1

0

28

0

In South Africa

1994-2006

10

18

0

624

122

34.66

1194

52.26

2

3

5

91

4

Sehwag's Weakness

In England

2002-2011

6

10

0

278

106

27.80

431

64.50

1

1

3

43

1

In New Zealand

2002-2009

5

9

0

180

48

20.00

185

97.29

0

0

0

30

2

In South Africa

2001-2011

8

15

0

382

105

25.46

563

67.85

1

1

2

66

2

Graeme Smith's Strength

In England

2003-2012

12

22

2

1355

277

67.75

2262

59.90

5

3

1

172

2

In New Zealand

2004-2012

6

12

2

572

125*

57.20

974

58.72

2

3

1

68

2

In South Africa

2002-2014

61

103

7

3986

200

41.52

6228

64.00

10

19

6

543

9

 

[Coronis]

Anyone else miss @viriya ?

 

[Burgey]

Gotta say the more I listen to Hayden commentate, the less likely I am to vote for the ****.

 

[Shady Slim]

Anyone else miss @viriya ?

honestly, yes!

 

[silentstriker]

Gotta say the more I listen to Hayden commentate, the less likely I am to vote for the ****.

Yes but still Hayden was better

 

[CricketFan90s]

Hayden's Weakness

In England

2001-2005

10

18

2

552

138

34.50

1085

50.87

1

1

2

80

2

In New Zealand

2000-2005

4

7

0

197

61

28.14

385

51.16

0

1

0

28

0

In South Africa

1994-2006

10

18

0

624

122

34.66

1194

52.26

2

3

5

91

4

Sehwag's Weakness

In England

2002-2011

6

10

0

278

106

27.80

431

64.50

1

1

3

43

1

In New Zealand

2002-2009

5

9

0

180

48

20.00

185

97.29

0

0

0

30

2

In South Africa

2001-2011

8

15

0

382

105

25.46

563

67.85

1

1

2

66

2

Graeme Smith's Strength

In England

2003-2012

12

22

2

1355

277

67.75

2262

59.90

5

3

1

172

2

In New Zealand

2004-2012

6

12

2

572

125*

57.20

974

58.72

2

3

1

68

2

In South Africa

2002-2014

61

103

7

3986

200

41.52

6228

64.00

10

19

6

543

9

Gary Kirsten

In England

1994-2003

12

21

1

909

210

45.45

2160

42.08

3

4

1

124

2

In New Zealand

1995-2004

7

12

2

587

137

58.70

1237

47.45

2

3

0

80

2

In South Africa

1994-2004

52

88

8

3384

275

42.30

7639

44.29

8

16

6

436

4

 

[CricketFan90s]

Hayden

In Australia

1996-2009

56

98

8

5210

380

57.88

8285

62.88

21

16

5

614

47

In India

2001-2008

11

22

2

1027

203

51.35

1635

62.81

2

5

2

117

19

Kirsten

In Australia

1993-2002

9

17

1

698

153

43.62

1785

39.10

2

3

2

81

1

In India

1996-2000

5

9

0

471

133

52.33

989

47.62

2

2

0

55

0