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    Who is/was the ultimate, most proficient and masterful medium-paced-dibbly-dobbler?

    The Jacob Oram thread got me thinking on dibbly-dobblers (not that big Jake was that...) whose area of excellence really only seems to exist in ODI cricket due to the middle innings strangle or going for a partnership breaker because everyone else is getting smacked about.

    Thinking about it, as a team role, even a craft, who was the best? I'm not talking about partially legit seamers like Steve Waugh (at least initially not), seamers who might even be able to crank it up past 135k if they've had their weetbix. No, I want to celebrate what would otherwise be mediocrity or sub-standardness if wheeled out in Tests, or even T20s where I would've thought they'd excel but proved to be more fodder of all the formats.

    The likes of Chris Harris, Collingwood, Astle or Ganguly. Do Ian Harvey and Jesse Ryder fall into this, or do they have more tools to be a cut above?

    As I'm a young-un I only really know of those in the last 20 years of the game, so would be keen to be enlightened to earlier of the part-timers, with a look to creating a poll to determine who is the king of pedestrian...
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    Used to love Chris Harris (Crus Hurris). One of my favourite cricketers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Used to love Chris Harris (Crus Hurris). One of my favourite cricketers.
    See he is the best for mine, without being a genuine bowling all-rounder or simply a bowler. IIRC he's had Tendulkar's wicket a few times, coaxing him out with seemingly juicy deliveries.

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    Gavin Larsen - beyond anyone else, is the king of this role.

    I think had he been selected to play more test cricket he'd probably have held an average of 30, probably around a 2.2 RPO and strike rate near 70 balls.

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    Went hunting through scorecards to find some gruesome dobbers and jesus christ this attack

    2nd Test: West Indies v New Zealand at St John's, Apr 27-May 2, 1996 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    They had Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop

    We had Morrison, Larsen, Vaughan, Kennedy, Dipak, Harris

    The best bit is they got the Windies out for 184 in the second dig because the only test standard bowler (well Larsen may have been but we'll never know) blitzed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    See he is the best for mine, without being a genuine bowling all-rounder or simply a bowler. IIRC he's had Tendulkar's wicket a few times, coaxing him out with seemingly juicy deliveries.
    Great ODI bowler I reckon. Naggingly hard to get away and very economical. Think he often bowled at clutch times also.

    Sits third on NZ's ODI wickets tally which is a fair achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blocky View Post
    Gavin Larsen - beyond anyone else, is the king of this role.

    I think had he been selected to play more test cricket he'd probably have held an average of 30, probably around a 2.2 RPO and strike rate near 70 balls.
    Quite probably, but he was a specialist. I probably should've been more specific, meaning specialist bowlers weren't to be considered, ruling out the likes of Larsen and Morrison (though if there were to be a specialist dibbly dobbly bowling poll, Larsen could probably take it)

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