Hamish Marshall

Tim · 17-01-2004, 12:42 PM

So is Marshall the real deal?

11 matches, 1 century/4 fifties at an average of 52.12, an excellent SR of 77 also.
And he must be saving 10 or 15 runs per match in the field also.

He's only played against Pakistan but Shoaib & Sami aren't the easiest bowlers around. 40* against Pollock, Ntini in South Africa awhile back doesn't harm his credentials either.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 17-01-2004, 01:46 PM

He's been a true surprise package considering his domestic performance. Haven't seen him yet, but I gather he's built his innings nicely.

Tim · 17-01-2004, 01:58 PM

Well he's playing the supporting role nicely, rotating the strike etc at a very good clip too. And he can up the tempo when required, he doesn't seem to get bogged down.

Which begs the question whether NZ should look at his twin brother James, who has the better FC record.

hourn · 17-01-2004, 06:05 PM

hows his brothers James going?

He (James) has played the first five or so round at my club for the pats two or three seasons before heading to New Zealand, and he is one of the genuinely nicest guys i've ever come across. Technically, a Good batsmen too......

Tim · 17-01-2004, 06:07 PM

Statistically he's not much better than Hamish at FC level, but thanks to the success of his brother he might get a chance with the NZ team sooner rather than later.

Mingster · 17-01-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Tim
Statistically he's not much better than Hamish at FC level, but thanks to the success of his brother he might get a chance with the NZ team sooner rather than later.

Hamish's success doesn't make James the same player, or even better or worse. Twins doesn't always mean you are the 'same'.

If they do select James because of his brother, that is just stupid when others like Papps and How are piling on the runs.

Tim · 17-01-2004, 06:37 PM

Well im pretty sure the selectors will make the same hunch on James as they did on Hamish.
James may be a failure, but we don't know until we found out.

Mingster · 18-01-2004, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by Tim
Well im pretty sure the selectors will make the same hunch on James as they did on Hamish.
James may be a failure, but we don't know until we found out.

But back then (South Africa) Marshall got selected because we really didn't have many up and coming batsmen up the ranks. But now it's a different story.

They are brothers, twins, but it does not mean they have the same qualities.

Craig · 18-01-2004, 03:27 AM

He is definatly better then Vincent in the field.

nibbs · 18-01-2004, 03:59 AM

Marshall has been really good. However its worth noting that he averages under 30 in both forms and his ODI century in Pakistan last year was his 1st ever in any form of the game. I just wonder is he playing above his weight and can we expect him to turn into a Lou Vincent or Matthew Sinclair soon?

Richard · 18-01-2004, 06:15 AM

I am expecting that to be the case.
You do get the odd case who never performs at domestic level and does in internationals, but they're very rare.

Craig · 18-01-2004, 06:24 AM

Probably in the late 30s or in the early 40s I predict.

anzac · 18-01-2004, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Tim
Well im pretty sure the selectors will make the same hunch on James as they did on Hamish.
James may be a failure, but we don't know until we found out.

James has a couple of big innings under his belt from previous 'A' Team matches or something doesn't he including a double ton in domestic FC..............at least shows he has the temperament for a big innings - unlike some other players are showing in the team atm......

The upcoming 'A' series could give us an indication depending on if there are any 4 day games or if they are all Limited Overs....

I don't think they will consider him as an opening option ahead of Papps & McIntosh, but they may consider him for the middle order.....

anzac · 18-01-2004, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by nibblet
Marshall has been really good. However its worth noting that he averages under 30 in both forms and his ODI century in Pakistan last year was his 1st ever in any form of the game. I just wonder is he playing above his weight and can we expect him to turn into a Lou Vincent or Matthew Sinclair soon?

only if the selectors start dicking him around regarding playing him out of position & different roles etc..........

considering the consistency he's shown to date (10 games) in comparison to the hit & miss efforts from the likes of Vincent (62), Sinclair(38) & even McCullum (37) & Oram (49) when they started, then he has a long way to go b4 they look to drop him.......

anzac · 18-01-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Richard
I am expecting that to be the case.
You do get the odd case who never performs at domestic level and does in internationals, but they're very rare.

maybe so but as I said on another thread the thing that makes me think Marshall could be different is the fact that he made that Test debut 3 seasons ago & did not fail, and now makes his ODI debut in Pakistan in a different format against the fastest opening attack & again has not failed............3 years between drinks but he has managed to step up to the mark on both occaisions says a lot for his temperament ......

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Hamish Marshall So is Marshall the real deal? 11 matches, 1 century/4 fifties at an average of 52.12, an excellent SR of 77 also. And he must be saving 10 or 15 runs per match in the field also. He's only played against Pakistan but Shoaib & Sami aren't the easiest bowlers around. 40* against Pollock, Ntini in South Africa awhile back doesn't harm his credentials either. Last edited by Tim; 17-01-2004 at 12:47 PM.

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17-01-2004, 01:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Well he's playing the supporting role nicely, rotating the strike etc at a very good clip too. And he can up the tempo when required, he doesn't seem to get bogged down. Which begs the question whether NZ should look at his twin brother James, who has the better FC record.

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Statistically he's not much better than Hamish at FC level, but thanks to the success of his brother he might get a chance with the NZ team sooner rather than later.

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Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Well im pretty sure the selectors will make the same hunch on James as they did on Hamish. James may be a failure, but we don't know until we found out.

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Craig World Traveller Join Date: May 2003 Location: Super Happy Fun Sugar Lollipop Land! Posts: 34,131	Probably in the late 30s or in the early 40s I predict.

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