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Old 17-01-2004, 06:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i was describing the difference between the two great captains which were just mentioned, why does brearley have to be mentioned on every post?
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Old 17-01-2004, 10:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yes, its very sad that SA doesn't have Hansie right now. Because with the forms some the players are in (Gibbs, Smith, Pollock's consistency, Ntini) Hansie would definitely have brought the Proteas very very very close to the Aussies.

And yeah, by the way it's Sudeep. Don't worry though, most people make that mistake.
Sorry Sundeep . Didnt see U . Any ways an out of the cricket Q. How is Indian media right now. Taking the things lightly about Pakistan series and over all indopak current things. thanx anyways
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Old 17-01-2004, 11:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Didn't rate Cronje as a captain at all. Didn't make things happen when it was going against his side and left things drift. Also missed opportunities to turn the screw against England in 2 successive series...one he won and one he lost.
I think he was just lucky to have so many good players and, because of the number of all rounders (Pollock, McMillen, Kallis, Kluesner and even himself to a lesser extent), a very long batting line up.
Not in the same strasosphere as Brearly captaincy wise. Dermot Reeve was also very good IMO. Both of these 2 were skippers who would do something totally unexpected to influenece the game. I thought Cronje's captaincy was very staid and predictable.
You what ? you wanna say that there wasnt any significant change before and after Cronje.
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You what ? you wanna say that there wasnt any significant change before and after Cronje.
I dont think there was. Get beat by the aussies. Bottle it against England over here. Bottle it when it matters. Things are pretty much the same. The only difference is they don't throw games for money anymore.
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Old 18-01-2004, 04:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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i was describing the difference between the two great captains which were just mentioned, why does brearley have to be mentioned on every post?
Brearley took a team which was nowhere near the best around to heights far above where their talents suggested they should be (a similar job is being done by Fleming for NZ, who is IMO the best captain around in International Cricket)

Taylor and Waugh had very good records, but such is the gap between their Australian sides and the rest of the World that I maintain a blind one armed man (or for someone with less value to the team, Brett Lee) would have a similar record as captain.
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Old 18-01-2004, 05:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think anybody in charge of the WI would have to be so tough as you have the various islands and any claims of inslurarity etc.

Frank Worrell was a brilliant captain and knew how to get the best out his players. His message was simple, treat them like adults, and they behave like them and you get the best out of them and they respect, treat them like kids and they behave like kids.
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