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***Official*** India in England 2014
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HeathDavisSpeed
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Saved GIMH from getting soaked to the skin if the forecast was anything to go by. And if he's not at the game, he can post here more. For shame, India.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I've no love for either board, the ECB especially, but the BCCI's fingers-in-their-eyes-whilst-head-up-their-own-arse stance on UDRS moves them above them in the "worst controlling board" league IMHO.
Pretty sure SL's is the worst tho; when a player of Sanga's standing and intelligence openly calls out his own board doing the Cowdry Lecture I think it's pretty fair to conclude it must be ****house.
I think the ones who do (Bumble and Athers) are pretty obvious. Nass sees a fair bit of domestic LO stuff, but Botham, Holding and Warne clearly don't.
Spark
Global Moderator
100 wickets does not make you class.
Blocky
Banned
I think the fear factor for England is that they think they've turned a corner and now have a performing side again... I think the reality is they're playing a very brittle and weak India team and the next time England face up to stiff competition again they'll be back to where they were.
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
Broad just tweeted that he'll be playing at the oval. In a mask.
Howe_zat
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Rehman is a good bowler.
flibbertyjibber
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They don't. Charlie Dagnall off TMS and Boycott as he watches Yorkshire getting a free lunch are probably the only ones who do. Oh and Vic Marks.
The rest see nothing but the tv stuff we see.
Prince EWS
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Even just watching that and the Championship highlights videos that get released online could've told you Moeen had vastly improved as a bowler over the last couple of seasons, though.
Hell, even just peering over the scorecards once a week...
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
Of the main commentators on TMS you're right probably only Vic Marks and Dagnall, anyone who follows some of the county journo's (Lizzy Ammon etc) would know that he has vastly improved. Atherton does watch some county cricket though if you read his columns. I have a feeling that the only exposure Beefy gets to cricket is when he's in the com box, and he probably doesn't watch when he's at the ground and not in the box.
weeman27bob
International Regular
Lizzy WAG.
Howe_zat
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I don't think that's fair as it's not so much the quality of him as a bowler but the sort of bowler he turned out to be that many have been wrong about, myself included. Among English spinners with 20 wickets, he currently has the best strike rate since Colin Blythe and the worst economy rate since Ian Salisbury. That's not the sort of record you get from an offspinner who bats at six and it's going to be slow for people to adjust. It's also not the sort of spinner that lots of people thought they would be picking when they advocated him 'doing a job' with four seamers either.
flibbertyjibber
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True, he has surprised me though as I thought he'd improved to a crap international spinner standard but he is a long way past that.
Howe_zat
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Thought it actually was a thrilling Test up until that Root-Buttler partnership just before the rain came on Friday. When England were 170-6 or what ever it was on the second morning both sides were playing really well on a high quality wicket. After the rain India were just ****e.
morgieb
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Even doing that wouldn't have predicted how well he's gone in Test match cricket. Yes his last couple of seasons with the ball has been fine, but even then he was taking about 30-odd wickets @ ~> 30 - not really dominant figures. Yet here he's averaging low 20's and taken 19 wickets. I think his performances would've stunned even the most fervent Moeen backer.
