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Shane Bond - how good?
- Thread starter Marmers49
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Shane Warne
Banned
Marmers49 said:
oh dear! you couldnt win a 1st grade spelling competition in a special needs school
Hey guys/girls/whom ever is involved I think we just need to calm it down a touch and head on over to the official rules of the CricketWeb forum i.e the verbal (written?) barage being handed out rule because this heated conflict is getting t-o-t-a-l-l-y out of hand!:O
Gotta love taking the mick..so the official word is Bond or Astle (sorry for bringing him into a Shane Bond thread) definitely won't be playing against the Saffas?
Gotta love taking the mick..so the official word is Bond or Astle (sorry for bringing him into a Shane Bond thread) definitely won't be playing against the Saffas?
Shane Warne
Banned
he`s superior to leeMarmers49 said:
A Black Caps thread in Pakistan? Not quite sure on what you mean by that?Marmers49 said:
Not sure when I'm headin' off to bed as long as the posts are interesting I could be here a while. As for Bond vs Lee I think Bond is much more accurate than Lee and although he doesn't bowl as quick as with as much agression as Lee I think his line outside off stump is more consistant than Lees is. It's a pity he was injured very soon after his comeback as his club game was shown on the news and I think he bowled something like 10 overs with 6 maidens which shows quite a deal of consistency for a genuine quick like him. I also think that if the pitches here start offering even less to Vettori than what they are now and Bond was fully fit that a Bond/Tuffey then Butler 1st drop would be a very good combination given our pitches.
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Bond well over Lee.
Harmison, Jones, Akhtar, Sami, Edwards, Ntini all over Lee in Tests
Harmison, Jones, Akhtar, Sami, Edwards, Ntini all over Lee in Tests
Langeveldt
Soutie
Bond.. Best bowler ive ever seen NZ produce (beating Geoff Allott).. Hopefully he wont have lost any of that pace, cuz he had a bit!
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
If you ask me Bond is overrated.Marmers49 said:
People seem to take it for granted that he is one of the top Test bowlers in The World.
Let's go through his Test career:
2 Tests against Australia, averaged 96.33 (wow, that's fantastic, ain't it?)
2 against Bangladesh, averaged 13.63 (wow, that's hard, Bangladesh have so many good batsmen, and the series was at home on very, very seam-friendly wickets)
2 against West Indies, averaged 18 (while West Indies have a respectible batting-line-up, they were hardly as good then as they are now)
2 against India, averaged 16.33 (agan, at home on incredibly seam-friendly wickets - Tuffey and Oram did equally sillily well)
2 against Sri Lanka, averaged 38.8 (and that's fantastic, ain't it?)
If you ask me circumstances have conspired in his favour in Test cricket and in the likely event that we prepare some customary no-seam wickets over here next summer and bat well, I can see another poor series. For me the only occasions he's come up against circumstances remotely challenging, he's failed.
In ODIs, naturally, it's a totally different question, and there's no disputing that he's a very, very accurate and extremely good one-day bowler. He also actually seems to swing the while ball.
Yes, he's better than Brett Lee in Tests but that's not exactly difficult, is it? Lee has to be up with the worst Test bowlers of the last 3 years, and that's saying something.
I guess when you say people take it for granted he is one of the top 10 in the world, he has only played 10 tests. That average against Aus was when he played two tests, and was a back up for Nash, Martin and O'Connor... after say 30 tests (hopefully at least that far, staying injury free) then do a check on all his averages for the test playing nations.. if he is as good as we all think he is then his stats will prove it.. and he has got to be one of the top one-day pacemen playing currently (when he gets back)
thierry henry
International Coach
Shane Bond is a 15 minute wonder. He's hardly done anything yet and he's unlikely to do much in the future due to his injuries and age. I don't see him reaching 100 test wickets. Tuffey on the other hand will keep plugging away and go down as one of New Zealand's best bowlers.