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  • MONKs XI

    10 52.63%
  • HOWE_ZATs XI

    8 42.11%
  • ALDORAINE18s XI

    6 31.58%
  • OHNOITSYOUs XI

    8 42.11%
  • POTHAS' XI

    11 57.89%
  • ANKITJs XI

    3 15.79%
  • SAINT KOPITEs XI

    9 47.37%
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    'GROUP A' - The Best of Each Decade Birthday Draft. VOTING THREAD

    ATG Test Match Championship: ‘GROUP A’

    The Scenario

    Each contestent has rented a Time Machine, gone back in time, and assembled their own ATG team as listed below. Each player in the team is in the peak form of their career, and is injury free.

    Since the Test Match Championship will be played in modern conditions using modern equipment, the respective teams have been assembled in advance, and have played a full season in local competitions. ‘Old Timers’ have remarked that they, “thoroughly enjoyed the experience”, and that playing in 21st century conditions with excellent equipment was a “revelation”.

    The Test Match Championship is comprised of Home and Away fixtures between each of the seven teams. The strongest team with the most wins in ‘GROUP A’ will advance to the Grand Final against the winner of ‘GROUP B’.

    Please note that AldoRaine18 and Saint Kopite have arranged to have the pitches at Kotla and Barabati Stadiums relaid. The curators have both remarked that, “the added grass will give the pitch some more life on Days 1 and 2, but the traditional Indian red soil will ensure that the bounce is even”.


    Voting Rules

    Please vote for the 3 strongest teams. That is, the 3 teams that you think are the most likely to win the most matches in the ATG Test Match Championship, Group Stage. As usual for Test Match cricket, Wins = 1 point, and Draws/Losses = 0

    Voting will be stopped and counted at 8:00 pm Sydney Time, THURSDAY. Votes after that time will be discounted. If there is a tie then voting will continue for a further 24 hours to break the deadlock.

    Please remember to vote for 3 ‘GROUP B’ teams when you have finished voting for your 3 ‘GROUP A’ teams.

    As stated before, the winner of ‘GROUP A’ will advance to the Grand Final against the winner of ‘GROUP B’.


    MONKs XI
    Home Venue: Melbourne Cricket Ground
    01. Len Hutton*
    02. Arthur Morris
    03. Ricky Ponting
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Coilin Cowdrey
    06. Maurice Leyland
    07. Kapil Dev
    08. Hugh Trumble
    09. Mitchell Johnson
    10. Herbert Strudwick+
    11. Curtly Ambrose
    12th Alan Kippax


    HOWE_ZATs XI
    Home Venue: Headingley Grounds
    01. Herbie Taylor
    02. Mark Taylor
    03. Rohan Kanhai
    04. Jacques Kallis
    05. Denis Compton
    06. Douglas Jardine*
    07. Clyde Walcott+
    08. Malcolm Marshall
    09. Maurice Tate
    10. Derek Underwood
    11. Fred Spoffoth
    12th. Corey Anderson


    ALDORAINE18s XI
    Home Venue: Kotla Stadium
    01. Barry Richards
    02. Alastair Cook
    03. Everton Weekes
    04. Vijay Hazare*
    05. Eddie Paynter
    06. Kumar Sangakkara+
    07. Frank Woolley
    08. Michael Holding
    09. Sydney Barnes
    10. Courtney Walsh
    11. Lance Gibbs
    12th John W. Hearne


    OHNOITSYOUs XI
    Home Venue: Seddon Park
    01. Archie Jackson
    02. Sid Barnes
    03. Rahul Dravid
    04. Charlie Macartney
    05. Mark Waugh
    06. Garry Sobers*
    07. Matt Prior+
    08. Mike Procter
    09. Wilfred Rhodes
    10. Ray Lindwall
    11. Andy Roberts
    12th. Jack White


    POTHAS' XI
    Home Venue: The Oval
    01. Roy Fredericks
    02. Warren Bardsley
    03. Hashim Amla
    04. Kumar Ranjitsinjhi
    05. Frank Worrell*
    06. Keith Miller
    07. Ian Botham
    08. Jock Cameron+
    09. Shane Warne
    10. Frank Tyson
    11. Muttiah Muralitharan


    ANKITJs XI
    Home Venue: Rajiv Gandhi Stadium
    01. Geoff Boycott
    02. Vinoo Mankad
    03. Ken Barrington
    04. Sachin Tendulkar
    05. Steve Waugh
    06. Patsy Hendren
    07. Les Ames+
    08. Imran Khan*
    09. Vernon Philander
    10, Charles Turner
    11. Clarrie Grimmett
    12th John R. Reid


    SAINT KOPITEs IX
    Home Venue: Barabati Stadium
    01. Herbert Sutcliffe
    02. Desmond Haynes
    03. George Headley*
    04. Stan McCabe
    05. Michael Clarke
    06. Doug Walters
    07. Andy Flower+
    08. Fred Trueman
    09. Hugh Tayfield
    10. George Lohmann
    11. Waqar Younis
    12th Jack Ryder


    As a reminder, the OP was;

    The Best of Each Decade Birthday Draft

    The idea is to select 12 players, one from each decade. To stop arguments about whether Hobbs was a pre-War batsman, or a batsman from the 1920s, we'll be going by each player's Birthday. The cut-off Birthday dates for each decade are as follows;

    >=1980s - After 31/12/1979
    1970s - 01/01/1970 to 31/12/1979
    1960s - 01/01/1960 to 31/12/1969
    1950s - 01/01/1950 to 31/12/1959
    1940s - 01/01/1940 to 31/12/1949
    1930s - 01/01/1930 to 31/12/1939
    1920s - 01/01/1920 to 31/12/1929
    1910s - 01/01/1910 to 31/12/1919
    1900s - 01/01/1900 to 31/12/1909
    1890s - 01/01/1890 to 31/12/1899
    1880s - 01/01/1880 to 31/12/1889
    <=1870s - Before 01/01/1880

    An example of a team, should you be so lucky, would be;

    01. Jack Hobbs (1882) - 1880s
    02. Herbert Sutcliffe (1894) - 1890s
    03. Walter Hammond (1903) - 1900s
    04. Greg Chappell (1948) - 1940s
    05. Stan McCabe (1910) - 1910s
    06. Garry Sobers (1936) - 1930s
    07. Adam Gilchrist (1971) - 1970s
    08. Malcolm Marshall (1958) - 1950s
    09. Hugh Trumble (1867) <=1870s
    10. Allan Donald (1966) - 1960s
    11. Dale Steyn (1983) - >=1980s
    12th. Arthur Morris (1922) -1920s

    Each participant has 12 hours to pick their player for the Round. The odd numbered Rounds will be randomised, and the corresponding even Rounds will be in reverse order.

    If a participant misses 2 consecutive Rounds then the next participant in the order can make their pick straight away without waiting the 12 hours. If a participant misses 3 consecutive Rounds then they will be assumed to be unavailable and cannot return to the game.

    As usual, NO Bradman.

    Feel free to join in. Anyone one play, but it's first come first served, so be quick. It would be nice to get 10 to 14 participants.

    (If you don't think that the cut-offs for each decade are quite right then please let me know before we start)

    Cheers - Watson
    Last edited by watson; 29-03-2014 at 07:07 PM.

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    (I hope to God that everything is correct. So much can go wrong when setting up a poll)

    PLEASE ENJOY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Each player in the team is in the peak form of their career…..
    03. Ricky Ponting
    04. Graeme Pollock

    Good luck suckers!

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    Tough one. Went Kopite, Pothas and AldoRaine, the first one is the only one I have strong convictions about.
    5-0

    RIP Craig Walsh (Craig) 1985-2012

    Proudly supporting the #2 cricketer of all time.


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    This is one of the tightest drafts i've ever seen. Couldn't really distinguish the batting at all, but the three i voted for have the (slightly) better bowling attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Good luck suckers!
    Not to mention MJ

    Pothas' XI my personal favorute though. Such a boss team
    Last edited by OverratedSanity; 29-03-2014 at 08:41 PM.

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    Charles Turner in my team is the well known Charlie Turner. Just in case anyone doesn't recognise him.

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    This group stronger than group B imo.
    Messi scores on the rebound.

    Founder of ESAS - Edgar Schiferli, the best associate bowler
    A follower of the schools of Machiavelli, Bentham, Locke, Hobbes, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Lindwall, Miller, Hassett and Benaud
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    Saint Kopite has a brilliant team. I think it will win this group easily.

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    A fast bowling attack of Lindwall, Roberts, Procter is extremely strong, especially when it is backed up by 3 left left-armers - Rhodes, Sobers, and Macartney. Then there is Dravid followed by is the genius of Marcartney, Waugh, and Sobers in the middle order - a very nice combination. Add the skills of a specialist keeper and two talented openers, and I think that OHNOs team is the one to beat.

    Pothas' team also has a dream bowling attack with three aggressive pace bowlers and two great spinners, if not the greatest. I actually like the openers, despite Pothas' reservations, as they are both dependable and attacking at the same time. The middle order is probably not the strongest on show, but it does bat right down to Cameron, and Warne wasn't bad either. A most excellent team.

    The third choice was extremely difficult to make, but in the end I couldn't go past a team with Marshall, Kanhai, and Kallis in the lineup. I prefer an attack with two express bowlers, but there is no doubting the medium-fast skills of Tate and Spofforth. Especially a mid-1920s Tate. Add Underwood and Kallis into the mix and the attack is potent enough. The batting is very strong overall and has a nice blend of defensive and aggessive players. Both Marshall and Tate are handy batsman, so the team effectively bats down to 9. Add the captaincy skills of Jardine and the team would be extremely hard to beat. In the end I chose this side because it is probably the most balanced, with no obvious reliance on either the batting or bowling. It's an impressively blended team from top to bottom.
    Last edited by watson; 30-03-2014 at 01:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    A fast bowling attack of Lindwall, Roberts, Procter is extremely strong, especially when it is backed up by 3 left left-armers - Rhodes, Sobers, and Macartney. Then there is Dravid followed by is the genius of Marcartney, Waugh, and Sobers in the middle order - a very nice combination. Add the skills of a specialist keeper and two talented openers, and I think that OHNOs team is the one to beat.
    Sheesh Watson, cheers for that, now hopefully everyone else follows your vote :P

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    This is too difficult. Voted for Monk, Pothas and OhNoItsYou.

    AldoRaine - In hindsight, I feel stupid for not voting for this side. So I guess that says it all.

    AnkitJ - Nothing much wrong here. Lacks chutzpah though, for me. Slightly weak bowling compared to others.

    Saint Kopite - Has a very well balanced side. Wonderful side, in fact. Just the lack of a 5th bowler, and again keeping skills in question.

    HoweZat's XI - My biggest problem with this side was the wicket-keeper. Can't expect Walcott to handle the mad skills of Underwood and Spofforth. Plus not a big fan of bowlers like Tate. Tough batting line up. Ideal 4th innings line up.
    If you were that old, and that kind, and the very last of your kind, you couldn't just stand back and watch children cry.

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    Went with Monk, Aldoraine and Ohno. Aldoraine's has just a few question marks for me over the batting order, but Richards/Weekes/Sanga says it all.
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    This is too difficult. Voted for Monk, Pothas and OhNoItsYou.

    AldoRaine - In hindsight, I feel stupid for not voting for this side. So I guess that says it all.

    AnkitJ - Nothing much wrong here. Lacks chutzpah though, for me. Slightly weak bowling compared to others.

    Saint Kopite - Has a very well balanced side. Wonderful side, in fact. Just the lack of a 5th bowler, and again keeping skills in question.

    HoweZat's XI - My biggest problem with this side was the wicket-keeper. Can't expect Walcott to handle the mad skills of Underwood and Spofforth. Plus not a big fan of bowlers like Tate. Tough batting line up. Ideal 4th innings line up.
    Walcott kept to Ramadin and Valentine, think he would do just fine.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    AnkitJ - Nothing much wrong here. Lacks chutzpah though, for me. Slightly weak bowling compared to others.
    Not getting enough credit for having Grimmett IMO, one of the best few spin bowlers ever. Imran being an all rounder gets underrated as a bowler. He is as good as any leader of any pace attack in this draft.
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