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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    A lot has been said about how it'd be "harsh" to drop Rahane or Rohit, but I don't really think it would be as I wouldn't really see it as a dropping; not unless they were ridiculously dropped for Rayudu or something. Sometimes conditions or team balance dictate that you leave out your worst batsman or worst bowler or whatever, and that's quite different from a poor-performance-based dropping.

    Rahane would've known when he was brought in as a sixth specialist batsman overseas that his continued selection wasn't going to be purely in his own hands, just like when someone comes in for an injured guy. Rohit would've been aware that if Rahane performed he may find himself in that awkward "sixth batsman selected" position instead, too.

    As far as away Tests are concerned Dhoni shouldn't be allowed anywhere near #6 so the top order stays as is, but at home the stocks of himself, Ashwin and Jadeja rise quite a bit as batsmen so five bowlers becomes a serious option. If a middle order batsman is left out to accommodate that in certain situations, that's not harsh, it's life.
    The issue is that India need 5 bowlers overseas as compared to at home, our pacers barely got a bowl in the India v Aus and India v Windies series at home, but overseas that extra bowler really helps to add balance to the side and distributes the workload more evenly. The issue is that India don't have a pace bowling all-rounder, I think Ashwin is a good enough batsmen to take Rohit's place in the 11, but India probably won't do that.

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    can anyone enlighten me about varun aaron(i think that's his name) he played a few years ago and i thought he looked like a decent bowler. He opened with yadav and i thought that wasa good option for India..is Aaron still around/ injured/out of favour?
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    He is regarded as a LO specialist at this point. He is playing the Asia Cup game right now aws..
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    actually yes i just got a chance to catch a bit and noticed he was playing.! is it a good thing to have him back from an Indian fans perspective as it fdoes seem so as a neutral? A pace line up of Shami, Yadav and Aaron would be pretty formidable surely?
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    He's very raw, at the moment all he has is pace and nothing else. He's had some success in first class cricket this season but just bowling fast, straight and all over the place means I doubt he'll trouble most Test batsmen.

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    Solid jinx on Aaron fellas.
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    Aaron has played, how many, 19 FCs and 19 ODs. Together, that's a little more than the number of games Ishwar Pandey and Rishi Dhawan each have played in FC. Aaron's not played much active cricket to be in shape so soon. Hope they don't lose him.

    Back to Dhoni as captain, I feel it's time to move on. He's been at the helm for nearly seven years, so now is a good chance to change. Lack of tournament wins apart, the staggering count of player losses (Irfan, Mishra, Murali Kartik, Gambhir, Umesh, and several ignored Ranji stalwarts, not to mention how Ishant and Rohit have been poorly managed) isn't good. Largely the outcome of Dhoni backing only his preferred players, instead of being impartial and working with the best players the selectors provide him. I'm not even sure he's much of a strategist or tactician- his style of captaincy is only about standing by his friends.

    I guess Dhoni has something to offer, maybe as limited-overs captain, but the selectors need to get rid of that club of players he's nurtured, and pick the actual best players in India. And, of course, get rid of Fletcher. Things have gone downhill since he's taken over. I've yet to find anything positive that's been introduced by Fletcher.
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    i hear a lot about Dhoni "backing his players" is this really the case? surely he doesnt have 100% power on the make up of the team, doesnt the team management/coach get involved or is this not the case with the Indian team?

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    This is just me speculating without any facts but I think he's given a squad and then generally left to his own devices along with the coach, until someone keeps ****ing up and he's forced to drop them.

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    oic..thanks for the insight..interesting to hear how different teams work..i suppose every captain has those players who he thinks he can always depend on and human nature comes into play..I know when i have captained teams in the years its the same- yes i know there is a huge difference between captaining a country and a club team but i think the principle will be the same..i have to say i think he is a fatnastic player btw-cant comment on his captaining skills as its not my team, but he is mr iceman..

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