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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post

    Sidenote- It's pretty much impossible to overachieve as a test batsman over 30 tests.
    Hmmm...I thought we agreed 80 innings was the number you needed before all the fluctuations were ironed out in another thread. Be interested to know Hussey's average after 30 tests.

    I really feel that he scored an additional 10 runs each inning through sheer running between the wicket skills. He was a machine between the wickets. He would also score lots of help yourself runs by running the ball down to a vacant third man area for 2 or 3 and sometimes 4.

    Peter Taylor was a better spinner than him and should have had his spot in the test team. Mathews did not bowl darts as he tried to flight it - but he had no loop, he did get drift but not a great deal of spin and he had no guile or cunning. He was a poor bowler and was kept in the team because of his batting.

    I am judging him on his primary function which was to be a spin bowler.
    I got great enjoyment shouting "WHY THE **** ISN'T THIS GAME BEING PLAYED AT THE BASIN?!>!?!?" to reasonably significant cheers from the sparse crowd
    one day NZ will bring chappell to his knees in a puddle of his own tears and you'll see Phlegm on his belly greedily tasting every delicious tear before watching the hope fade from that old ****s eyes.
    Overrated XI Warner, Rutherford, Steve Smith, Rahane, Bairstow, Alecz Day, Donovan Grobelaar, Luke Ronchi, Faulkner, Dan Christian, Permaul

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    The Sweep Shot which is one of the ugliest things in cricket - unless it's the 'Compton-Cowdrey Sweep Shot' which is fine.
    I am often asked who was the best, fastest or toughest bowler I ever faced and I quite enjoy giving different answers every time. Well, it keeps me amused anyway –but the underlying point is that one could revise this whole list on a daily basis and never really be right and never really be wrong - DAVID GOWER

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    i loved matthews and rated him so highly when i was a kid. so disappointed when i went back and checked his stats. still wont hear anything bad about him.
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    You poor kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Massive risk of a leading edge if you do that before you're set IMO. Flick your wrists slightly early and it's straight back to the bowler.
    It takes discipline and practice in the nets to get the timing down pat, but once you do you can pull it off pretty much at will if the ball is full enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    i loved matthews and rated him so highly when i was a kid. so disappointed when i went back and checked his stats. still wont hear anything bad about him.
    My main memories of Matthews involve him scoring plenty of runs against everyone except the Windies who dismantled his technique. Averaged 15 over 6 Tests.

    However, he should be remembered for his pivotal role in the tied Test against India in 1986. Under enormous pressure he kept his cool, bagged a 10fer, and got the last Indian wicket.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63438.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Suggesting that you should work balls square of the wicket off the stumps early in your innings is probably the worst advice I have ever heard in cricket. Wow.

    AWTA. If you start whipping across the line early on, you're a prime LBW candidate, could randomly nick one into the slips, or give short cover/mid off catching practice off the leading edge. It just isn't a good idea when you're yet to get your timing right. So much less that can go wrong if you try and punch a middle stump half volley down the ground, rather than work it to midwicket.

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    If you try to whip it across the line then yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Nah it's not about profitability at all, it's about shot selection and the fact that a straight drive or a straight bat option isn't always the best option and is often more likely to get you out.
    Early in a batsman's innings, I've never seen a scenario in which it would be best to play a relatively full ball with an angled bat or cross bat rather than a straight one.

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    Cloud cover/ floodlights helping the ball swing. Has that ever been proven?

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    28. Body Mass Index

    Nice to see chunky lads like Ballance and Philander bucking the current gym-obsessed trend.

    Give me a player who prefers to hone his technique rather than his abs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Who overrates over rates?
    People watching an innings Alastair Cook is captaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    People watching an innings Alastair Cook is captaining.
    Commentators in general really. Sky NZ seem to be particularly silly about it.
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