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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    21. Playing straight.

    22. Similarly, vertical bat shots (when referred to as somehow being more correct than horizontal bat strokes).
    Disagree, to say the least.

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    23. over rates
    Who overrates over rates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garson007 View Post
    Disagree, to say the least.
    I'll explain myself.

    There are a few batsmen in international cricket who have a penchant for straight drives, and this has mistakenly led people to think that they have good techniques. The number of times I hear people say that Martin Guptill has good technique because he plays straight makes me want to bash my head against the wall. Attempting to straight drive balls that aren't overpitched is a bad cricket shot. It's just as bad as playing across the line.

    With the vertical bat strokes, there are times when it just simply isn't as safe a shot as a horizontal bat stroke. A back foot punch to a short wide ball is a more dangerous stroke than a cut shot. It's not a better stroke.
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    24. Shots of both feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garson007 View Post
    Disagree, to say the least.
    If you use your wrists well, even early in your innings you can work straight balls square of the wicket either side without too much danger, certainly much more profitable than weak straight drives that roll past the bowler to mid off. As for vertical bat strokes, they tend to be far less profitable as well as not necessarily being safer or more correct than a well executed cut shot or pull/hook shot, not only this, but once the ball gets to a certain height (about chest height), vertical bat shots get very difficult and then pretty much impossible, whereas horizontal bat shots can be played to a ball anywhere between hip height and head height basically

    EDIT: I didn't see Hendrix's later post but this is my take on it
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    Batting positions outside the top 3.

    What I mean by that is how we hear in NZ a bit on how Anderson and Watling should swap positions, or how Michael Clarke bats better at 5 instead of 4 etc. as if it really matters lol.

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    Footwork to pace bowling. (definitely isn't to spin)
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    Quote Originally Posted by African Monkey View Post
    Batting positions outside the top 3.

    What I mean by that is how we hear in NZ a bit on how Anderson and Watling should swap positions, or how Michael Clarke bats better at 5 instead of 4 etc. as if it really matters lol.
    it matters when you consider lower positions are more likely to have to bat with the tail

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    Footwork.
    yeah, balance and head position just as important IMO

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    Suggesting that you should work balls square of the wicket off the stumps early in your innings is probably the worst advice I have ever heard in cricket. Wow.
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    you use your wrists to angle the bat as the ball makes contact, using the pace of the ball (and hopefully some good timing) to place it squarer, it allows you to meet the ball with a pretty much straight bat, so the danger isn't really there, although it should only be attempted to a half volley, a length ball might do a bit off the deck and compromise the shot, I did it quite successfully during my innings yesterday actually, on turf too.

    Not that it was advice either ****, just something batsman can do as opposed to thinking playing straight is the only option early on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    If you use your wrists well, even early in your innings you can work straight balls square of the wicket either side without too much danger, certainly much more profitable than weak straight drives that roll past the bowler to mid off. As for vertical bat strokes, they tend to be far less profitable as well as not necessarily being safer or more correct than a well executed cut shot or pull/hook shot, not only this, but once the ball gets to a certain height (about chest height), vertical bat shots get very difficult and then pretty much impossible, whereas horizontal bat shots can be played to a ball anywhere between hip height and head height basically

    EDIT: I didn't see Hendrix's later post but this is my take on it
    Nah it's not about profitability at all, it's about shot selection and the fact that a straight drive or a straight bat option isn't always the best option and is often more likely to get you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Nah it's not about profitability at all
    Not to you at least, but it's surely a factor when deciding which shot is the best to play?

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    Playing in the V early in the innings was what was drilled into my head as a kid after we finished learning forward and back foot defence. Coach slapped us kids in the back of the head while keeping wicket until everyone got it right. So **** you if you think it was all for nothing.

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    I just love all kinds of balls.

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