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    Right Armers ATG vs Left Armers ATG

    Just an idea that struck me.I dont think theres been a thread along these lines before so i thought ill make one.

    As the title suggests, you have to come up with one ATG of all right handers, and the other ATG team of all left handers, and then decide which one is stronger according to each member.I dont think theres a possibility of a left handers team being better than the right handers team because of the sheer number of more ATG players being right handers, but lets see what teams people come up with.

    Only two conditions :

    1) No bradman in the right handers ATG side,just to make things slightly even.

    2)Players who bowl right handed and bat left handed or vice versa can only be selected in the left handers ATG side.

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    01. Bill Lawry
    02. Roy Fredericks
    03. Neil Harvey
    04. Graeme Pollock
    05. Garry Sobers
    06. Brian Lara
    07. Adam Gilchrist
    08. Alan Davidson
    09. Wasim Akram
    10. Hedley Verity
    11. Bill Johnston
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    01. Jack Hobbs
    02. Sunil Gavaskar
    03. Viv Richards
    04. Greg Chappell
    05. Sachin Tendulkar
    06. Jacques Kallis
    07. Alan Knott
    08. Imran Khan
    09. Malcolm Marshall
    10. Dennis Lillee
    11. Bill O'Reilly

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    Heh okay. I'll post up my process as I go along in my post because I'm sure you're all so interested. I'm only going to consider Tests for this.

    My Test ATWXI irrespective of handedness would be something like this:

    1 Hobbs
    2 Hutton
    3 Bradman
    4 Tendulkar
    5 Hammond/Headley
    6 Sobers
    7 Gilchrist
    8 Imran
    9 Hadlee
    10 Marshall
    11 Murali

    Sobers, Gilchrist and Hadlee batted left handed. The rest of them were all batted and bowled right handed. Bradman's been banned so I'm left with:

    Pure right handers:
    1. Hobbs
    2. Hutton
    3. Headley
    4. Tendulkar
    5. Hammond
    6.
    7.
    8. Imran
    9.
    10. Marshall
    11. Murali

    I'll fill in the empty spots with Miller, Knott and Barnes.

    Pure right handers final XI:
    1. Hobbs
    2. Hutton
    3. Headley
    4. Tendulkar
    5. Hammond
    6. Miller
    7. Knott
    8. Imran
    9. Marshall
    10. Barnes
    11. Murali

    Left handers/mixed XI:
    1. Worrell
    2. Lawry
    3. Lara
    4. Harvey
    5. Border
    6. Sobers
    7. Gilchrist
    8. Wasim
    9. Davidson
    10. Hadlee
    11. O'Reilly

    Opening batsmen were hard to the point of me cheating a bit, although Worrell did open in a few Tests and made 191 once in the position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post

    Left handers/mixed XI:
    1. Worrell
    2. Lawry
    3. Lara
    4. Harvey
    5. Border
    6. Sobers
    7. Gilchrist
    8. Wasim
    9. Davidson
    10. Hadlee
    11. Bedi

    Opening batsmen were hard to the point of me cheating a bit, although Worrell did open in a few Tests and made 191 once in the position. I considered S Pollock in for Bedi just so I could stick Hadlee at 11 and feel like a beefy boy would absurd batting depth but Bedi adds more.
    Worrell and Pollock were left handed? Not sure if Worrell bowled left hand arm but Pollock was definitely all right handed
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Worrell and Pollock were left handed? Not sure if Worrell bowled left hand arm but Pollock was definitely all right handed
    Yeah I confused myself with the Pollock thing; l was considering putting him in the right handers side at one pioint, ignore me.

    Worrell bowled left arm spin and pace though.

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    For some reason I always imagined Hammond bowling left arm.
    The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.

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    I'd go:

    Right XI:

    Hobbs
    Hutton
    Richards
    Tendulkar
    Ponting
    Botham
    Knott
    Imran
    Warne
    Marshall
    Mcgrath


    Left XI:

    Smith
    Lawry
    Lara
    Graeme Pollock
    Harvey
    Sobers
    Gilchrist
    Davidson
    Shakib
    Wasim
    Hadlee


    Went for Shakib coz I him and Bedi is a ****. Also, looking for a third left arm seamer is so difficult. Didn't want to select Hadlee because his primary discipline is right arm. Bill Voce ? No one else really comes to mind. Vaas maybe?

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    The selection of Hadlee feels like cheating even though is isn't. What is odd though is that that in the whole history of cricket there isn't a third left-arm fast bowler that can realistically challenge Hadlee's spot. I'm pretty sure that even Bill Johnston would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah I confused myself with the Pollock thing; l was considering putting him in the right handers side at one pioint, ignore me.

    Worrell bowled left arm spin and pace though.
    Pollock batted left handed, or is it about bowling? I'm not sure in that case
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    Quote Originally Posted by schearzie View Post
    Pollock batted left handed, or is it about bowling? I'm not sure in that case
    Shaun Pollock. Right handed everything.

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    oh damn yeah. 100%.

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    According to the op's conditions, Hadlee and Ambrose can get selected in left handed XIs. Why is no one picking them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ankitj View Post
    According to the op's conditions, Hadlee and Ambrose can get selected in left handed XIs. Why is no one picking them?
    I picked Hadlee. Ambrose completely crossed my mind though; don't tend to think about his batting as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Heh okay. I'll post up my process as I go along in my post because I'm sure you're all so interested. I'm only going to consider Tests for this.

    My Test ATWXI irrespective of handedness would be something like this:

    1 Hobbs
    2 Hutton
    3 Bradman
    4 Tendulkar
    5 Hammond/Headley
    6 Sobers
    7 Gilchrist
    8 Imran
    9 Hadlee
    10 Marshall
    11 Murali

    Sobers, Gilchrist and Hadlee batted left handed. The rest of them were all batted and bowled right handed. Bradman's been banned so I'm left with:

    Pure right handers:
    1. Hobbs
    2. Hutton
    3. Headley
    4. Tendulkar
    5. Hammond
    6.
    7.
    8. Imran
    9.
    10. Marshall
    11. Murali

    I'll fill in the empty spots with Miller, Knott and Barnes.

    Pure right handers final XI:
    1. Hobbs
    2. Hutton
    3. Headley
    4. Tendulkar
    5. Hammond
    6. Miller
    7. Knott
    8. Imran
    9. Marshall
    10. Barnes
    11. Murali

    Left handers/mixed XI:
    1. Worrell
    2. Lawry
    3. Lara
    4. Harvey
    5. Border
    6. Sobers
    7. Gilchrist
    8. Wasim
    9. Davidson
    10. Hadlee
    11. Bedi

    Opening batsmen were hard to the point of me cheating a bit, although Worrell did open in a few Tests and made 191 once in the position.
    Bull**** you'd pick Bedi over O'Reilly. Who are you and what have you done with Cribb
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