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    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    Fixtures:

    Wed Feb 5 - Sat Feb 8
    08:30 GMT | 10:30 local
    16:30 WST | 19:00 CDT | 19:30 EDT
    South African Invitation XI v Australians
    Senwes Park, Potchefstroom

    Wed Feb 12 - Sun Feb 16
    08:30 GMT | 10:30 local
    16:30 WST | 19:00 CDT | 19:30 EDT
    1st Test - South Africa v Australia
    SuperSport Park, Centurion

    Thu Feb 20 - Mon Feb 24
    08:30 GMT | 10:30 local
    16:30 WST | 19:00 CDT | 19:30 EDT
    2nd Test - South Africa v Australia
    St George's Park, Port Elizabeth

    Sat Mar 1 - Wed Mar 5
    08:30 GMT | 10:30 local
    16:30 WST | 19:00 CDT | 19:30 EDT
    3rd Test - South Africa v Australia
    Newlands, Cape Town

    Sun Mar 9 (20 ovs)
    12:30 GMT | 14:30 local
    20:30 WST | 23:00 CDT | 23:30 EDT
    1st T20I - South Africa v Australia
    St George's Park, Port Elizabeth

    Wed Mar 12 (20 ovs)
    16:00 GMT | 18:00 local
    00:00 WST +1d | 02:30 CDT +1d | 03:00 EDT +1d
    2nd T20I - South Africa v Australia
    Kingsmead, Durban

    Fri Mar 14 (20 ovs)
    16:00 GMT | 18:00 local
    00:00 WST +1d | 02:30 CDT +1d | 03:00 EDT +1d
    3rd T20I - South Africa v Australia
    SuperSport Park, Centurion

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    So if we we in the selectors chair at the moment who would we be picking for the Saffer tour? (mind you, with one batting, two bowlings innings left.)

    For a starting XI I'm thinking the first test will be a straight swap D00lan for Bailey unless the latter does something extraordinary or D00lan has a horrid second half of the Shield Season:

    David Warner
    Chris Rogers
    Shane Watson
    Michael Clarke
    Steven Smith
    Alex Doolan
    Brad Haddin
    Mitchell Johnson
    Ryan Harris
    Peter Siddle
    Nathan Lyon

    Reserve Batsmen:

    Philip Hughes (based on SS form)
    Chris Lynn?
    George Bailey?

    I'm thinking Faulkner is a certainty but they might go for enough bits and pieces allrounder like they seem to like on overseas tours. Then again, they didn't in the only tour under Lehmann.

    James Faulkner
    Moises Henriques?

    Three reserve paceman will probably be enough for the three test series. I assume they'll stick with the same logic they have thus far which seems to be sound. Alot of people will be calling for the inclusion of Sayers but IMO needs a good Australia A tour or one more ripper Shield season just like Bird did.

    James Pattinson
    Jackson Bird
    Nathan Coutler-Nile/Doug Bollinger/Ben Hilfenhaus?
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    probably all of that, but id put hughes at 6 and have d00lander in the sheds. north surely warrants selection as a reserve and im always in favour of a reserve keeper.

    wouldnt shock me for rhino to retire after this test either
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    2nd spinner Boyce?

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    defo dont need a second spinner


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    but then who would bowl spin when we drop nath?
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    who's going well in melbs grade?

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    How big is the tour squad? Is it big enough to carry two reserve batsmen? If it is, I wonder if they might take a young bloke as second in line, like Horsehead or Silk.

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    It's hard to know which pace bowlers will go with Bird, Pattinson coming back from injury recently. Both have hit the mark in T20 and I'd have both over Coulter-Nile any day. Not sure how much Shield cricket there is before the team departs though, I think perhaps none which could work against Bird and Pattinson??

    Current top 5 batsmen will remain in place even though their first innings collapses are a worry. They'll take Faulkner plus two more batsmen imo. Doolan probably one, not sure on the other.

    Haddin clearly as wicketkeeper. Not sure who they consider to be the reserve keeper at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    How big is the tour squad? Is it big enough to carry two reserve batsmen? If it is, I wonder if they might take a young bloke as second in line, like Horsehead or Silk.
    probably. which will mean someone will go over there and wander around instead of playing shield

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Sam View Post
    It's hard to know which pace bowlers will go with Bird, Pattinson coming back from injury recently. Both have hit the mark in T20 and I'd have both over Coulter-Nile any day. Not sure how much Shield cricket there is before the team departs though, I think perhaps none which could work against Bird and Pattinson??
    Apparently Starc is already back bowling in the nets and if he's ready to go, I wouldn't be suprised to see the trio of Pattinson, Bird and Starc being the only reserve quicks. It'd be interesting to see how Starc goes in SA conditions if he gets a game with the bounce/movement.

    Current top 5 batsmen will remain in place even though their first innings collapses are a worry. They'll take Faulkner plus two more batsmen imo. Doolan probably one, not sure on the other.

    Haddin clearly as wicketkeeper. Not sure who they consider to be the reserve keeper at the moment.
    I have a inkling that the selectors still will be Wade over Nevil even if they've been in about equal SS form and Nevill is the better keeper. Ever since Wade was called up to keep in the West Indies I think he's been earmarked as the long term solution. I think people make out Wade's time in the test side as worse than it actually was. Until India his batting was fine and if he can iron out the problems in his keeping he'll be fine IMO.

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    I'm honestly scared for our top order.

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    I'm wondering who is going to replace Kallis. You could legitimately see a new batsman, wicket keeper, all rounder or bowler come in for him. Any option be it a Elgar, De Kock, McLaren, or Abbott type is obviously going to make the side a fair bit weaker.
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    Philander must be licking his lips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I'm wondering who is going to replace Kallis. You could legitimately see a new batsman, wicket keeper, all rounder or bowler come in for him. Any option be it a Elgar, De Kock, McLaren, or Abbott type is obviously going to make the side a fair bit weaker.
    SA "experts" seem to be convinced that he will be replaced by De Kock with ABDV handing over the gloves and moving to 4

    This would be consistent with the Saffers extremely conservative attitude but leave them a bowler "short"

    Will be interesting to see how the protected Philander and rubbish RP go without having Kallis to pick up the slack on a good batting pitch

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