Is Broad now better than Anderson?

[Gob]

You should've watched wasim bowl then. He was awesome. Better than Jimmy at moving the ball both ways and better control. Sometimes he could swing more than he could control though. An enjoyable over from him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr9rFKty6Kw

Yeah forgot about him. I'd reiterate then most skilled after Wasim

 

[Jono]

Jericho was so godly in '98 in that cruiser division. Literally the funniest guy in wrestling for that brief period of time

Yep. Comedic gold

 

[Red]

James Anderson has to be the most skillful swing bowler that I've seen. Dale Steyn can swing it away Allan Donald and Shane Bond could predominantly swing it in but no one that i've watched had the mastery of doing it both with the sort of control that Anderson has. He won't be rated as highly as the likes of Donald and Steyn due to the relatively higher average though

Alderman made it talk in the UK.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Broad's better in general, Anderson better at making the most of helpful conditions

Suggesting that either of them are in the same vicinity as McGrath, Donald or Steyn, as bowlers in general, would be laughable though.

 

[Red]

Suggesting that either of them are in the same vicinity as McGrath, Donald or Steyn, as bowlers in general, would be laughable though.

No one did. The conversation was about swing bowlers.

 

[TheJediBrah]

No one did. The conversation was about swing bowlers.

I know. I can read believe it or not.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

You should've watched wasim bowl then. He was awesome. Better than Jimmy at moving the ball both ways and better control. Sometimes he could swing more than he could control though. An enjoyable over from him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr9rFKty6Kw

I like how one of the first things mentioned is Slater being dropped three times.

 

[Howe_zat]

Since this thread was made, Anderson has 100 wickets in 22 tests, averaging 21.61.

Reads the forum I guess.

 

[jimmy101]

I'm quite surprised to read that some people here rate Broad higher than Anderson. Jimmy for me has always been unequivocally the better bowler. I really appreciate both players for their longevity though. IMO Broad & Anderson are England's greatest opening combination since Willis & Botham.

 

[ImpatientLime]

so where do these two rank all time amongst english quicks?

deffo the best two since willis/botham imo. followed by gough, fraser and flintoff (when he bothered to pitch it up).

in terms of all time they probably sit below the following....

willis
botham
trueman
statham
bedser
barnes
snow

so top 10?

 

[91Jmay]

Neither of them are behind Snow. Appreciate he was a very good bowler but longevity matters.

 

[Furball]

Since this thread was made, Anderson has 100 wickets in 22 tests, averaging 21.61.

Reads the forum I guess.

Past his best though.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Neither of them are behind Snow. Appreciate he was a very good bowler but longevity matters.

Snow did play for over a decade. Longer than Broad's career so far.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I hope Anderson and Broad keep tearing it up and end up with averages close to 25 so that all those runs Dravid and Sangakkara scored against them retroactively get even more praise.

 

[Furball]

Broad's better in general, Anderson better at making the most of helpful conditions

Suggesting that either of them are in the same vicinity as McGrath, Donald or Steyn, as bowlers in general, would be laughable though.

I would say it's the opposite. Anderson's your man for all conditions whereas Broad is who you want in helpful conditions as he's more likely to go on a roll and just destroy a batting lineup.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Is it wrong to say that Broad, when he's truly on is far, far better than Anderson can be?

 

[TheJediBrah]

I would say it's the opposite. Anderson's your man for all conditions whereas Broad is who you want in helpful conditions as he's more likely to go on a roll and just destroy a batting lineup.

You may be right, I'm mostly just judging by most of the times I've seen Anderson in unhelpful conditions being completely useless

 

[Howe_zat]

so where do these two rank all time amongst english quicks?

deffo the best two since willis/botham imo. followed by gough, fraser and flintoff (when he bothered to pitch it up).

in terms of all time they probably sit below the following....

willis
botham
trueman
statham
bedser
barnes
snow

so top 10?

I would just about have Anderson over Beefy on bowling alone, but depending on how far back you want to go there are a handful of others in this group, Lohmann, Larwood etc

The only two that I would put ahead of Anderson with a gap are Barnes and Trueman, but he might not make the top 10 depending on the wind. The figures are no real help here, Anderson has 300 wickets at 25 this decade, which is a similar enough record to what Statham, Bedser and Willis got overall as to make it up to whatever you're feeling

 

[ImpatientLime]

Is it wrong to say that Broad, when he's truly on is far, far better than Anderson can be?

no. broad is as destructive as anyone when he clicks.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I'm mostly just judging by most of the times I've seen Anderson in unhelpful conditions being completely useless

You haven't watched a single England test in 6-7 years if you truly believe that.