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    Quote Originally Posted by WindieWeathers View Post
    Will Ashwin finally do well away from his indian roads?
    Indian roads? First bowler ever to like bowling on roads then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Indian roads? First bowler ever to like bowling on roads then.
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    Ashwin's unlikely to play anyway IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I got great enjoyment in going to the game and shouting "WHY THE **** ISN'T THIS GAME BEING PLAYED AT THE BASIN?!>!?!?" to reasonably significant cheers from the sparse crowd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Anyone want to join me at this test?
    Maybe we could make a cw day at the cricket? Will see what the others say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    I forgot about this great moment:



    Sachin Tendulkar celebrates India's win with a banana, New Zealand v India, 1st Test, Hamilton, 4th day, March 21, 2009

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    McIntosh - not as bad as some, still not really test standard
    Guptill - no where near good enough then
    Flynn - was a joke then
    Taylor - good
    Ryder - good
    Franklin - norounder
    McCullum - good WK bat
    Vettori - good batsman
    Mills - poor at tests
    O'Brien -
    Martin - awful bowler during this period

    Then we replaced Mills with Jeets for Napier. Hari Kari much...

    Tbf India gave us a hand by playing one bowler, but even then the collective direness of the 2009 side couldn't dispatch them. Pretty sure that was the series Marto put Harby back over his head though. WAFG.

    We didn't really have a good team though, and in 20/20 hindsight they stood no chance against Zaheer and some great batsmen.
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    Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Anyone want to join me at this test?
    I hope there's an earthquake ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    I hope there's an earthquake ****
    So that's a no?

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    Nah Mills was a decent Test bowler by then. He was never great and he wasn't going to do much on those pitches but from 2006-2009 he was not ****. A bit unlucky not be selected more really.

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    New ball bully and ridiculously injury prone tbh. I wub him but he's never really worked out how to bowl once the shine is gone and he kept running out of puff. Line and length at 125-130kph doesn't really cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    New ball bully and ridiculously injury prone tbh. I wub him but he's never really worked out how to bowl once the shine is gone and he kept running out of puff. Line and length at 125-130kph doesn't really cut it.
    Yeah, that's why he was never going to be great, but he was decent enough. I certainly wouldn't describe him as "poor" in the 2006-2009 period. He was just average. If you want to see Mills bowling poorly in Tests, go watch his debut again.

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    I do agree with your overall point though. Even if Mills is deemed decent/average rather than poor, you only had four decent batsmen (none of whom were any better than "good" and only two of whom actually batted in the top six) and two decent bowlers in that side at the time. Martin if I recall was bowling complete crap.

    I often make the point about New Zealand sides that they often look so much better at the time than they do when we look back at them, but even if things go a bit pear-shaped with some of the 50/50 or unproven players in the current side, I definitely think we'll look back and say that Williamson, Taylor, McCullum, Southee and Boult were decent international cricketers which makes the current side better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    I do agree with your overall point though. Even if Mills is deemed decent/average rather than poor, you only had four decent batsmen (none of whom were any better than "good" and only two of whom actually batted in the top six) and two decent bowlers in that side at the time. Martin if I recall was bowling complete crap.

    I often make the point about New Zealand sides that they often look so much better at the time than they do when we look back at them, but even if things go a bit pear-shaped with some of the 50/50 or unproven players in the current side, I definitely think we'll look back and say that Williamson, Taylor, McCullum, Southee and Boult were decent international cricketers which makes the current side better.
    True. But I think that's countered by the fact that no matter how much you rate the promise of Pujara, Kohli and Rahane and their overseas ability, they aren't anywhere near as good as Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid were overseas. Not yet anyway. So this team is definitely no where near the 2009 team. Add to the fact that Zaheer, Sehwag and Gambhir (who saved the 2nd test in that series with his Kirsten-like batting) were in the peak of their careers, and really I think that Indian team of 2009 is far far better than this team touring NZ.

    So NZ may have been worse back then, but India were better back then as well. They'd have beaten most teams NZ put out (at least on the pitches that were served up). I mean they were a bee's dick and some better weather away from 2-0 as well.

    This time, whilst India are coming off a reasonably good South African tour, they still lost the series. Still a lot for this team to prove. And its kind of unknown how good Zaheer will be still imo.

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    I think O'Brien is looked back on with rose tinted glasses, tbh. He was ok but I'd usually take Martin over him.



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