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    great player .

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    Avoided posting in this thread to start with to see if my rage softened........it hasn't, and Graeme Swann can still go and get ****ed. Was such a fan and the way this ended has left me bitter and struggling to appreciate his fine career.

    Not the man I thought he was.

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    Still don't understand that reaction at all.
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    Whats not to understand? He bailed on the tour and deserted a sinking ship.

    I wouldn't have cared if he didn't play the last two tests.......he should have stayed with the team.

    Do you think he would have gone home if Eng were 3-0 up?? These players aren't just here for the good times......if the fans can tough it out and see it through to the end is too much to ask the same of the players??


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    If England were 3-0 he probably would have been bowling a lot better and wouldn't have needed to retire, to state the obvious.
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    Yeah, but jumping a sinking ship after its struck the iceberg is a bad look for an experienced seaman.

    I strongly suspect he'd been given the tap that he was out for Melbourne and he took his ball home with him.

    Contrast his reaction with Prior's.
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    Look, I've tried to find every possible way of justifying it and I just can't.......believe me I don't want to be feeling this way towards someone that has brought me so much enjoyment.

    He has said his elbow was giving him grief during the England leg and he was the leading wicket taker. I'm not sure how much could have changed between the Oval and Perth except that he and England were getting tonked.

    He came to Aus to make history, once that was off the table he bailed. Like I say, if his injury was that bad that he couldn't play the last two, or even if he was going to be dropped........you don't just pack the bags and leave your mates.

    Look to Matt Prior as an example of what a team man does......he stayed to spend time working with his replacement and to do everything he could to help the cause, however futile it may have been.

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    BB beat me too it with the Prior comparison.

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    The reason he gave for his retirement was he was bowling poo and was dragging down the team. Would say it's pretty straightforward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    The reason he gave for his retirement was he was bowling poo and was dragging down the team. Would say it's pretty straightforward.
    We had a whole squad playing like poo.........what if they all wanted to go home??

    Look I understand this is a contentious issue and I'm no more likely to change your mind than you mine...........but it is far from straightforward.

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    I think Swann had the right to retire when he wanted. I think he had the right to go home when he wanted too. But its hard to deny that it looked like ****. Also hard to deny it wasn't **** for Cook and the rest of his team - another issue they had to deal with in the media.
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    Prior's obviously trying to get back into the team though. If he'd retired after being dropped do you really think he'd have stayed?

    Unless you're suggesting Swann retired because he was dropped. And in that case, he's got every right to decide he doesn't want to fight to get back into the side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    We had a whole squad playing like poo.........what if they all wanted to go home??

    Look I understand this is a contentious issue and I'm no more likely to change your mind than you mine...........but it is far from straightforward.
    He's got a young family.

    Yes it's selfish, but after his decision to retire, I can't blame him for getting the **** out of Australia and going home to spend Christmas with his wife and kid(s). I would have done exactly the same.

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    nah im with adders. weak as piss.

    we were all thinking it was strange (tm) when marto choofed off (brb wicket)

    anyway as i was saying, at least we were winning when marto ****ed off. swan going home was as **** an act as ive seen by a cricketer in living memory.
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    Not a great surprise to see him go straight into media work, joining TMS for the West Indies tour. Could very much go either way, think he could be very good if he wanted to be, or he could just be ridiculously anoying.

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    Will be interesting to see if he lets anything slip out about the tour if asked.

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