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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Hendrix, shut up.

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    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YorksLanka View Post
    sorry my bad . meant to add that they one the ODI series away..youre right, they lost 3-0 in tests..my point was that they are no mugs...
    We shouldn't confuse formats here(in any case one could point to the 4-1 loss prior to the 2-1 win but that discussion is for another thread). In tests Pakistan's form has been patchy at best and pathetic at worst. Their last test series win came against England, 2 YEARS ago. And it isn't like they've played Bradman's invincibles for 2 years either, they dropped a test and shared a series against Zimbabwe(and if not for Younis Khan they may have well lost the series) so let's not big them up to justify a drawn series here. After having got out of jail in the first test, winning the second one and batting nigh on 2 days to post 400 and then securing a near 100 lead, SL would be very, very disappointed with a drawn series. You could even understand Ajmal spinning a web on them and defeating them on a turning track but to concede 300 in 59 over was terrible. I thought India and West Indies had the worst attacks of the top 8 but Sri Lanka have made me change my mind.
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    Pakistan drew their test series with South Africa in the UAE just a couple of months ago, 1-1.

    They won the first test and it wasn't due to Ajmal spinning a web or any particularly massive home advantage.

    They're inconsistent, but they're a good team, and a drawn series is a massive, massive upset for Pakistan against SL. Pakistan would beat any team in the world in the UAE except for South Africa.
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    They drew 1-1 vs Zimbabwe too, what is your point exactly? I think this is twice in a row that they have struggled to beat SL in the UAE; forgetting SA, who does that leave? Australia - can't say. They might or they might not. India - not going to happen anytime soon but if it did I'd back India to win a close series. So basically that is saying they can beat NZ, England, WI in the UAE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jassy View Post
    They drew 1-1 vs Zimbabwe too, what is your point exactly? I think this is twice in a row that they have struggled to beat SL in the UAE; forgetting SA, who does that leave? Australia - can't say. They might or they might not. India - not going to happen anytime soon but if it did I'd back India to win a close series. So basically that is saying they can beat NZ, England, WI in the UAE.
    The point is that Sri Lanka have been in awful form for a while - drew their home test series against NZ, got absolutely dicked in Australia, and have barely played test cricket in the past couple of years. Their seam bowlers were averaging in the 70s. Jayawardene couldn't buy a run.

    Pakistan on the other hand are unbeaten in the UAE, and were coming off the high of having beaten South Africa in a test and then drew the series. And even their batsmen were expected to score runs against bowlers that average in the 70s.

    This is a massive upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    The point is that Sri Lanka have been in awful form for a while - drew their home test series against NZ, got absolutely dicked in Australia, and have barely played test cricket in the past couple of years. Their seam bowlers were averaging in the 70s. Jayawardene couldn't buy a run.

    Pakistan on the other hand are unbeaten in the UAE, and were coming off the high of having beaten South Africa in a test and then drew the series. And even their batsmen were expected to score runs against bowlers that average in the 70s.



    This is a massive upset.
    I'd agree Pak were favourites at the start of the series but calling it a massive upset is pushing it. Pakistan had Ajmal, Sri Lanka had Herath. Sri Lanka had no one as good as Junaid but otherwise Pakistan's back up bowlers were hardly flash. Sri Lanka had a better wicket-keeper batsman and Mahela Sanga probably cancel YK Misbah out, Mathews is better than anyone not named YK or Misbah in the Pak side so I really don't see how this is a big upset. Pakistan have won one test against Aus in a decade and a half or something so I wouldn't use a series loss to Aus against SL....SL drew a test series vs NZ, that is alright...Pak drew one vs Zimbabwe! Sri lanka's form has been poor sure, but Pakistan haven't won a series in 2 years as well so it isn't like they were in great form.

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    No i agree with Hendrix that this is an upset to be honest. We havent played test cricket in a long time and its also our worst format of the game. Add to that, that we are are a team in transition, then i would have not expected anything but a loss in the test series. I did think we would get closer in the ODI's but that wasnt to be..Pakistan may be inconsistent but they arestill a very good team imho..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jassy View Post
    I'd agree Pak were favourites at the start of the series but calling it a massive upset is pushing it. Pakistan had Ajmal, Sri Lanka had Herath. Sri Lanka had no one as good as Junaid but otherwise Pakistan's back up bowlers were hardly flash. Sri Lanka had a better wicket-keeper batsman and Mahela Sanga probably cancel YK Misbah out, Mathews is better than anyone not named YK or Misbah in the Pak side so I really don't see how this is a big upset. Pakistan have won one test against Aus in a decade and a half or something so I wouldn't use a series loss to Aus against SL....SL drew a test series vs NZ, that is alright...Pak drew one vs Zimbabwe! Sri lanka's form has been poor sure, but Pakistan haven't won a series in 2 years as well so it isn't like they were in great form.
    fair enough. I'd make a bit more of the home advantage thing but ymmv.

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    Was a bit of an upset, but mainly because we didn't realise before the series that the Sri Lankan quicks were going to be so effective and that their new opening combination was going to work so well. You never know which Pakistan is going to show up before a series so it's hard to evaluate who should be favourites sometimes. While Pak-SL series' are usually close the home ground advantage has been pivotal in the last few, so I'd say it was a minor upset all things considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jassy View Post
    I'd agree Pak were favourites at the start of the series but calling it a massive upset is pushing it. Pakistan had Ajmal, Sri Lanka had Herath. Sri Lanka had no one as good as Junaid but otherwise Pakistan's back up bowlers were hardly flash. Sri Lanka had a better wicket-keeper batsman and Mahela Sanga probably cancel YK Misbah out, Mathews is better than anyone not named YK or Misbah in the Pak side so I really don't see how this is a big upset. Pakistan have won one test against Aus in a decade and a half or something so I wouldn't use a series loss to Aus against SL....SL drew a test series vs NZ, that is alright...Pak drew one vs Zimbabwe! Sri lanka's form has been poor sure, but Pakistan haven't won a series in 2 years as well so it isn't like they were in great form.
    I agree with you actually. And which is why I earlier pointed that thankfully Whatmore is gone. He took over JUST AFTER the series against England that Pakistan had won.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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