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    Worse no. 6's than Ramdin

    Just wondering who the worst player ever selected to bat at number 6 would be?

    I'm not thinking of players who were picked and then shown not to be good enough for test cricket, so much as those who had demonstrated over a period of time that they weren't very good batsmen, but got put as number 6. Players who might have made respectable number 8's who thanks to some flavour-of-the-month selectorial brilliance ended up at 6.

    I'll nominate a few kiwis - James Franklin, Chris Harris, Dipak Patel maybe.

    Another category might be the bits n pieces folk with short careers who were probably never going to be good enough, but form in first class cricket got them a couple of caps or so. England seemed to specialise in these players for a time, the likes of Irani and Hollioake...

    (I suspect the winner of the title for worst player will be Khaled Mahmud, but I can't be bothered checking to see if he did in fact bat at 6....)

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    Hey you, I wanted to say Franklin and no way is he in the same class as the venerable Christopher Zinzan Harris.

    But it's Franklin all the way.
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    Adam Hollioake

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    nah Franklin's a better bat than Ramdin.


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    Chigumbura must've batted 6 a fair number of times to qualify.

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    I know my choice might not sit easy but he was given ample opportunities in ODI's beforehand to see he was not a top 6 player but was still picked there in tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    I know my choice might not sit easy but he was given ample opportunities in ODI's beforehand to see he was not a top 6 player but was still picked there in tests.
    Hollioake senior? Fair call, although he can only have played one test there in the 1997 series IIRC.

    Craig White was another, especially back in 1994 when Illingworth thought the need for five bowlers outweighed the need for a decent batting lineup to see off Donald, de Villiers and co. He wasn't the worst batsman in the world, but he was completely out of his depth there at that stage of his career, especially against a very good SA attack.

    I think Ronnie Irani may also have played a few times at number 6.

    There's a theme here, isn't there. I wonder whether Pringle ever batted at 6 for us. I reckon Capel might have done on occasions. And I think that Geoff Miller might even have batted there early in his test career. A man who never managed a FC ton ffs.

    Elsewhere, I remember Aus only picking five batsmen in the decisive Melbourne test back in 1986. Maybe their disco-dancing offie was promoted to number 6. Can't recall his name for the life of me though.
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    Be Greg Matthews he is on about won't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Be Greg Matthews he is on about won't it?
    That's the one. Did he bat at 6 at Melbourne in 1986/87?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    That's the one. Did he bat at 6 at Melbourne in 1986/87?
    Just looked and yes he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Just looked and yes he did.
    Thanks mate - and apologies for being too lazy to do it myself. I just remember reading about England cracking open the champagne when they heard that Aus were only playing five batsmen. Mind you, Aus were so abject in that test it probably wouldn't have made any difference if they had played one more.

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    Matthews averaged 41 with the bat in 33 Tests though. Even at #6 specifically he averaged just shy of 44 in 15 innings. Got the job done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Matthews averaged 41 with the bat in 33 Tests though. Even at #6 specifically he averaged just shy of 44 in 15 innings. Got the job done.
    Fair enough. I'm amazed, but it's hard to argue with the stats. Who did he play against when batting at 6? Not that there were many easy pickings in the mid-80s.

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