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  • Sachin Tendulkar

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  • Muttaih Muralitharan

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  • Would rank them equally

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    I'm astounded that some people consider Gavaskar superior to Tendulkar
    Most of them just peeved at the excessive adulation Tendulkar gets I think.

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    It is not like there is daylight between Gavaskar and Tendulkar tbf
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    It is not like there is daylight between Gavaskar and Tendulkar tbf
    Personally think there's a sizeable gap in favor of Tendulkar. If "daylight" is the gap between the 2nd tier of batsmen (after the Don) and the tier below that, then yes, there's daylight between them imo. Tendulkar achieved and was capable of everything Gavaskar did and quite a bit more
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    Tendulkar the better bat and Murali the better bowler probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Most of them just peeved at the excessive adulation Tendulkar gets I think.
    Or maybe they just have a different criteria for rating batsmen...
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    Sanga has done well but Murali has done better. In my opinion, Murali is simply the best off spinner in history of cricket and I can't make that kind of statement for Sanga.
    Sanga isn't the best off spinner in the history of cricket? News to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    yeah, Murali is unarguably the greatest cricketer to come from SL, while Sachin has reasonable competition from Gavaskar
    Out of curiosity, why does that affect who is greater though? You can use that to say Andy Flower > Tendulkar and Lara.

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    Because you can only be a product of the system that made you I guess, whether or not that affects greatness I don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Because you can only be a product of the system that made you I guess, whether or not that affects greatness I don't know
    Then how did the system of Sri Lankan cricket make Murali?

    Happy to say "Tendulkar had Dravid, Murali didn't have an equivalent bowler", but to say "Tendulkar had Gavaskar" is odd. May as well say "Ponting had Bradman, so I rate X player better"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Out of curiosity, why does that affect who is greater though? You can use that to say Andy Flower > Tendulkar and Lara.
    You're being generous to the argument by using Flower as an example. You could use Shakib Allison. Or Bart KIng. Or Michael di Venuto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Minor digression: When will we next see the leading Test wicket taker bowl to the leading Test run scorer?Will we ever?
    No-one will beat Murali's record IMO.

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    In fact, I'd be very surprised if the exploits of the just retired generation are bettered. I reckon 1990-2010 was the optimal time for setting cricketing records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    No-one will beat Murali's record IMO.
    Agreed, Test cricket seems to be declining in importance and sadly, popularity vs T20 and the likelihood that anyone (and it would also have to be a spinner with little competition for wickets and helpful home wickets) will get to play as much test matches as Muralitharan is remote if not non existent. That record is as safe as 99.94.
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    And above all must be once in a life time talent like Murali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Agreed, Test cricket seems to be declining in importance and sadly, popularity vs T20 and the likelihood that anyone (and it would also have to be a spinner with little competition for wickets and helpful home wickets) will get to play as much test matches as Muralitharan is remote if not non existent. That record is as safe as 99.94.
    Can you belittle Murali's achievements a little more please

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    Eh, it's a legitimate point. Obviously Murali's record is amazing but it's amazing primarily because :
    1) He's one of the greatest bowlers ever, and arguably the greatest spinners ever
    2)As he said, it's getting obvious now that tests won't be as frequent as they once we're.
    3) Murali did have plenty of factors in his favor in terms of pure quantity of wickets. Being the only world class ATG bowler in a weak attack is a huge benefit (look at Hadlee) and imo I don't see how anyone can argue against it.


    And am I the only one who doesn't find Murali and Tendulkar's records THAT remarkable in terms of pure number of runs/wickets. Tendulkar got so many runs because he debuted incredibly early and played at a world class level for longer than anyone in test cricket, not necessarily that he was better than everyone else. Murali while he was a wicket taking machine if seen in proper context his stats are incredibly brilliant instead of "omg best bowler ever he's unbeatable", because of the aforementioned factors in his favour. You may take this post as belittling their achievements, but that wasn't the intention. If their records don't get beaten I don't think it shows they were better than ever one else. If Lara/Ponting had been spotted and drafted into the national team at 16 they probably would have 16000 runs. Similarly if Warne had played for Sri Lanka instead of Murali I'm sure he would've got 800 wickets
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