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Sachin Tendulkar to retire

ankitj

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Oh and I wish I was in India right now to catch all the coverage on this in news (half of it will be tripe I know). Getting back next week, so will catch up.
 

GuyFromLancs

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Here's a question for ya'll - if he'd retired 10 years ago, would he be regarded as better or worse than he is now?

(call it after is 241 in Sydney)
 

Burgey

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Here's a question for ya'll - if he'd retired 10 years ago, would he be regarded as better or worse than he is now?

(call it after is 241 in Sydney)
Just differently I suspect. Part of the wonder of him is the sheer longevity. Had he retired then he'd still have had a long career, and maybe would be remembered even more fondly from
A pure batsmanship POV, but there'd have been no WC, no series win in England a few years back, no clash with Steyn etc. etc.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Here's a question for ya'll - if he'd retired 10 years ago, would he be regarded as better or worse than he is now?

(call it after is 241 in Sydney)
He would most definitely still be considered an all time great batsman however his 2007-2010 performances and his sheer longevity and outlasting all his contemporaries in my view make him even better .
A better question woud be, what if he had retired right after the tremendous South Africa series of 2010 from tests and ODIs after the 2011 World Cup, ending on a high like that..would people consider him better than they do now? because most people are always influenced by current events and have a short term memory, so now they remember his struggles of the last 2 years and 0-8 and that influences how they assess Tendulkar.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Wow..some people need specsavers.

For those who say he scored all his runs on flat pitches..for your kind information (on top of having a Billion cricket loving People on his back lol)

In Australia,
Matches - 20
Runs - 1809
Bat Average - 53.2

In England,
Matches - 17
Runs - 1575
Bat Average - 54.31

In SA,
Matches - 15
Runs - 1161
Bat Average - 46.44

In New Zealand,
Matches - 11
Runs - 842
Bat Average - 49.52

Its not even humanly possible to match his individual records of staying at the top for that long !

I am sorry but Tendulkar has never been anything more than a flat track bully who has finally decided to retire now after he has realized that he cannot score even on his custom made flat pitches at home (failures against England and Australia at home over the last year).

Even a Paul Collingwood who has a 206 on a green top in Australia is better than an overrated and selfish batsman like Tendulkar who never missed a chance to ton up on flat pitches and boost his average, forget about true greats like Mark Ramprakash, Saleem Elahi, Mahela Jawardene and Greg Blewett.
 

GuyFromLancs

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My praise of Tendulkar is on the basis that he was essentially 2 batsmen. The spin-specialist at home – who worked the ball over and around and murdered Shane Warne. And secondly, the most amazing purveyor of punchy, and uncannily accurate, backfoot drives against the quicks away from home.

He almost had no right to master these 2, almost diametrically opposed, arts the way he did. It’s this adaptability and production that for me, gives him the ever so slight edge on (you know, the Port of Spain lad). At his best, his anticipation was so good, it looked like the world’s best bowlers were bowling specifically to his bat so he could look good. He was just too sharp, too compact, and too productive to bowl at. In the late 90s he just transcended. And even from 04-05 onwards, with his significantly scaled-back game, he was still one of the best in the world in all formats.

And add to this, the way he played an almost wholly onside 241 against Australia at the SCG whilst he took a time-out on his offside game to recalibrate it. I mean, he treated a test match away to the world’s best team like a personal experiment, and scored a double century.

Kudos that man!
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
I've never said he's anything but a great player mate. Besides, retirement threads should be tribute-filled.

I'll start the bucket of **** thread closer to his last test.
LOL I know you love pissing off the psychotic Indian fans..so thought I'd give you a taste of your own medicine :p
 

OverratedSanity

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And add to this, the way he played an almost wholly onside 241 against Australia at the SCG whilst he took a time-out on his offside game to recalibrate it. I mean, he treated a test match away to the world’s best team like a personal experiment, and scored a double century.

Kudos that man!
Arguably has exactly 50 test hundreds better than that one
 

OverratedSanity

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Nope he has a 248 against Bangladesh after being dropped about 4 times and overall just being beaten repeatedly.
Yeah probably that one but I've never quite got why so many people rate the Sydney double so highly, even Tendulkar himself. It was dull, boring, one-paced and overall just a meaningless knock. He's made so many brilliant hundreds it ****es me off to no end when someone is asked what his best innings was, and they say "Oh the Sydney double he didn't hit a single cover drive" Gagf you stupid **** it was a terrible innings.
 
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Burgey

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It wasn't very entertaining, that's for sure. It was disappointing in a way that India didn't really push on to try and win that test by either scoring more quickly or declaring a bit earlier. From memory it was a 700 vs 450-500 odd first innings game.
 

Maximas

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That knock came on an extremely flat pitch against quite a second string bowling attack as well. That Perth hundred in his first tour easily his best knock in Australia
 

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