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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyFromLancs View Post
    Yeah you're right. Warne was marginally better in Tests (25 - to 26 in FC), wheareas Swann's is 28 in Tests and 31 in FC.
    Cricinfo's FC stats include the player's test stats. Purely in FC his average was a clear few rungs below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Cricinfo's FC stats include the player's test stats. Purely in FC his average was a clear few rungs below.
    Not really, even if you remove tests, his pure FC average is still 26.9... Not a significant difference from his test average

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Barrington:
    58 in Tests, 45 in FC
    His is definitely a case where I think his slumps happened while he was playing FC and not tests. Tests are what matter, though
    Before the modern era I think there's a fair few English guys who had better test batting averages than FC averages. Hobbs, Sutcliff and Hammond all have higher test averages iirc (I think Barrington's has by far the biggest difference though)
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    Scott Styris and Nathan Astle, because both decided part way through their FC careers to stop being medium pacers who could have a swing and start being batsmen who bowled a little bit.
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    Brendon McCullum is another - clearly a better Test record than FC, and his List A and ODI records are almost identical. That's kind of surprising, really, because he was selected way, way, way too early - particularly in ODIs.

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    Sutcliffe deserves a mention, especially considering the gigantic sample size of his FC record.
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    I always thought Barrington was a bit of a dasher at first class level, played all the shots,but in test cricket with 5 days not 3 to take advantage of, he put away his shots and turned out to be better as a defensive player than in "normal" mode.

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    Another potential reason: pitches in domestic cricket might be more/less helpful than those in test cricket, thus aiding batsman/bowler when he starts playing test cricket

    County pitches might have been tougher than the average test pitch for some time (perhaps some Shield batsmen would have better averages in test given current state of pitches). On the flip side, I would suspect some Pakistani bowlers to have better test averages than fc averages as the flip side to this (since Pakistani domestic pitches can be quite dead, though their fc structure isn't the most credible either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Sutcliffe deserves a mention, especially considering the gigantic sample size of his FC record.
    Probably because the general standard of English FC cricket was higher than most Test cricket, and Australian pitches were flat as ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Michael Clarke is another one who has better Test (and ODI, iirc) stats than First Class and List A.

    With players like Clarke, when they're selected young and on the basis of talent, they'll play so little domestic First Class cricket that if they develop and perform as hoped in the Test side, they won't play enough FC to "correct" their record.
    Michael Clarke's batting and bowling averages are both better at test level than at FC level.

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    Because he doesn't get to bowl at India in the Shield.

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    David Gower's test average (44) is higher than his FC average of 40. The feeling at the time was he simply cba with the domestic game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Because he doesn't get to bowl at India in the Shield.
    14 of Clarke's 30 test wickets have come against India. But he also has 9 West Indian wickets.

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