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    **Official** Indian Domestic Season 2013/14

    The season will begin shortly, with two Challenger Trophy teams announced- India Blue and India Red.

    India Blue squad for the Challenger Trophy: Yuvraj Singh (capt), 2 Akshath Reddy, 3 Naman Ojha (wk), 4 Mandeep Singh, 5 Ankit Bawane, 6 Abhishek Nayar, 7 Manish Pandey, 8 Piyush Chawla, 9 Ankit Rajpoot, 10 Vinay Kumar, 11 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 12 Iresh Saxena

    India Red squad for the Challenger Trophy: Irfan Pathan (capt), Robin Uthappa, Abhinav Mukund, Saurabh Tiwary, Gurkeerat Mann, Kedar Jadhav, Smit Patel (wk), Yusuf Pathan, Shahbaz Nadeem, Abhimanyu Mithun, Umesh Yadav, Suraj Yadav

    Delhi have yet to announce their team, but this time, the State team may be a lot more competitive. These Blue and Red teams are usually very disjointed, and made the most against a Bengal side that was missing Dinda, Shami and Manoj Tiwary. This Delhi team will have at least four players trying hard to secure or regain their places in the national side.

    In other news, Ramesh Powar joined Rajasthan, Ashok Malhotra is Bengal's chief coach while Ganguly is the chairman of the state's coaching committee (to help develop cricket at lower levels). Harmeet Singh, on the other hand, is struggling to get a contract, after that match-fixing mess where he was barely involved, and his bid to join Vidarbha was unsuccessful. Hopefully he won't miss out on this season.
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    'A' games against WI should be interesting too, with Zaheer, Gambhir and Sehwag being given a second chance. Good to see Kaif getting a chance as well as Praveen Kumar (albeit in the limited overs squad)

    India A squad for the first four-day game: Cheteshwar Pujara (capt), Jiwanjot Singh, KL Rahul, Manpreet Juneja, Rajat Paliwal, Harshad Khadiwale, Parvez Rasool, Bhargav Bhatt, Ishwar Pandey, Mohammed Shami, Ashok Dinda, Rohit Motwani (wk), Dhawal Kulkarni, Paras Dogra

    India A squad for the second and third four-day games: Cheteshwar Pujara (capt), Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Sheldon Jackson, Abhishek Nayar, Paras Dogra, Uday Kaul (wk), Parvez Rasool, Bhargav Bhatt, Dhawal Kulkarni, Zaheer Khan, Ishwar Pandey, Mohammed Shami, Mohammad Kaif

    India A squad for the three 50-over games and one T20: Yuvraj Singh (capt), Unmukt Chand, Robin Uthappa, B Aparajith, Kedar Jadhav, Naman Ojha (wk), Yusuf Pathan, Irfan Pathan, Jaydev Unadkat, Praveen Kumar, Sumit Narwal, Shahbaz Nadeem, Mandeep Singh, Rahul Sharma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    'A' games against WI should be interesting too, with Zaheer, Gambhir and Sehwag being given a second chance. Good to see Kaif getting a chance as well as Praveen Kumar (albeit in the limited overs squad)

    India A squad for the first four-day game: Cheteshwar Pujara (capt), Jiwanjot Singh, KL Rahul, Manpreet Juneja, Rajat Paliwal, Harshad Khadiwale, Parvez Rasool, Bhargav Bhatt, Ishwar Pandey, Mohammed Shami, Ashok Dinda, Rohit Motwani (wk), Dhawal Kulkarni, Paras Dogra

    India A squad for the second and third four-day games: Cheteshwar Pujara (capt), Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Sheldon Jackson, Abhishek Nayar, Paras Dogra, Uday Kaul (wk), Parvez Rasool, Bhargav Bhatt, Dhawal Kulkarni, Zaheer Khan, Ishwar Pandey, Mohammed Shami, Mohammad Kaif

    India A squad for the three 50-over games and one T20: Yuvraj Singh (capt), Unmukt Chand, Robin Uthappa, B Aparajith, Kedar Jadhav, Naman Ojha (wk), Yusuf Pathan, Irfan Pathan, Jaydev Unadkat, Praveen Kumar, Sumit Narwal, Shahbaz Nadeem, Mandeep Singh, Rahul Sharma
    Yes, Looks like they are bringing back all the old guys again.. Gambhir, Sehwag, Zaheer, Praveen, Kaif, Uthappa, Yuvraj, Yusuf and Irfan..

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    The selection of Mohammed Kaif for the long haul is a good one, given his form in the past five years, and then, the past two. An average in the high forties, and nearly 40% innings result in a score over fifty. His OD record over five seasons isn't so good, but in the last two, he's hit some form. As an immediate replacement for Tendulkar, he's just the right person.

    One thing I'm not happy about is the presence of age cheats in the domestic scene. Far too many fake their age either at the behest of associations trying to get easy wins, or as a result of their Indian team ambitions.


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    A point to note is that both Yuvraj Singh and Ashok Dinda have supremely good records while playing in the Duleep Trophy- Yuvraj has an average of 90, while Dinda seems to be at an altogether different level as a bowler, with 52 wickets in ten games at a strike rate under 40! Let's see what we can make of that.

    I also hope the Rajasthan/Central Zone folks make the best use of Meenaria's new-found all-round ability, but also keep him scoring plenty of runs. He's a really neat and strokeful batsman to watch, has plenty of striking power, pinches a lot of singles, and appears to be another Yuvraj Singh in the making, and definitely a better batsman than Jadeja. He has, however, taken most of his OD wickets in the last season and a little beyond (15/18 career wickets in the last 11 games), and does little with the ball in FCs- and add to that a rather modest OD batting average, although better in the same last 11 games.

    Ishwar Pandey will be one bloke to watch, since he's begun well and is taking it further nicely- one more good season and he's definitely an India prospect. I'm not too optimistic of Shami, though- he doesn't have it in him to be a striker for India. Parvez Rassool, though, should get a full all-round role in the FC series and he anyway carries his team, J&K, most of the time. Dhawal's lack of pace and physique may weaken him as a strike bowler, but he's exceptionally good on the field, and can score plenty of runs, so that will make him useful, not just in a Duncan Fletcher way, and he too has played more than fifty FC games.

    The batting may be something to ignore, as there are plenty of prospects, enough to fill three teams. The only ones to watch will be the opening batsmen- JJ, Jagadeesh and Rahul have done well, but all of them are very new and inexperienced in domestic/reserves level itself- and need more season to prove themselves.
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    Yuvraj smashes a century in the first game, would love to have an in-form Yuvi back in limited overs cricket. Looks fitter too.

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    A lot has been said about Yuvraj's fitness, and he was emphatic in his century in that game, which also featured Yusuf Pathan's two-runs-a-ball sore of 70 and a neat support act from Mandeep Singh, but that was another flat pitch on which the Indian bowlers struggled, Indian filler bowlers were taken apart but the West Indian reserves still crumbled by 77 runs.

    Irfan and Praveen are missing from this series, because of recurring injuries. These two just can't stay fit now.
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    Conditions don't look easy to bat in, at least early in the innings. Narwal looks pretty average to me, think a slower Bhuvneshwar with an outswinger. Gets decent movement off the seam at least.

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    What's with these WI A players and their List A averages? None of them >30..

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    Unmukt Chand's start was incredibly slow. This may just cost the team the match. As also the West Indian spinners actually turning the ball and going for wickets.

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    West Indies A win by over 60 runs. One dropped catch can definitely make a difference, like Yusuf dropping Carter at seven did. Carter made a match-winning century. Chand's poor strike rate, though, still cannot be excused.

    India's frontline seamers were decent. Vinay Kumar has had a good series so far. It's the filler bowlers who've gone for plenty. Yuvraj has not bowled today, and only four in the previous game. Not a good sign, given his all-round form over the past four years.

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    It's 313 for India A to chase. Last time, John Carter of Mars took the match away with a century (gifted by Yusuf Pathan at seven). Will Trekkie Kirk Edwards (can't call him Captain, that's Kieron Powell) win the game again? There was also a rapid-fire fifty by Leon Johnson, and lower-order players Devon Thomas and Ashley Nurse have made some smashing contributions here. This is more of the West Indies batting we know and love- clean hitting, powerful strokes, and smart innings-building.

    This is also, sadly, a typical Indian bowling unit. The part-time or filler bowlers are a soft spot, and in three games out of three, they have the worst economy rates of the bunch- and not enough wickets to show either. Add to that a replay of Indian seamers' weaknesses on flat decks and in the final overs, as the last ten overs went for a hundred runs, though, to their credit, they nicked six of the nine wickets to fall in that period.

    Sid Kaul's flat deck nightmare continues. He's been leaking runs left, right and centre since his selection for the A-team tour for South Africa. That's a very far cry from the bloke who was a leading wicket-taker in the last season's Ranji Trophy, and the sooner he fixes his flat-pitch weaknesses and adds some serious pace, the better.

    Vinay Kumar has had a good series, with six wickets in three games, and a decent economy, although Unadkat has overtaken him in the wickets tally with five in this game- but his economy may raise some eyebrows- but still a lot, lot better than the dreadful economy rates of the part-timers who lack striking power.
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    A little perspective required here. Yuvraj Singh has been stereotyped as an ODI/T20I specialist not good enough for Tests or FCs. Yet, if you dig up his domestic/FC stats, you'll find that while his average for Punjab is a modest 43 with six centuries, he seems to be a much better player for higher levels, short of Tests
    • North Zone (average 90, 7x100 of which 1x200)
    • Rest of India (average 63, 1x200)
    • India A (average 51, 1x100)
    • India Board XI (average 111, 1x100)
    • Even the Indian team's tour FC games (average 47, 1x100)

    So that's a combined average of 76.3 with eleven centuries, in 24 games for teams not Punjab (state side, lowest in FC) or India (where he's been in and out) and Yorkshire (a very dire 2003 season picked way before he was ready). These are not Ranji Trophy stats, but a combined figure of Duleep, Irani, India A (the kind that plays foreign reserves/futures, not the team from the silly Challenger Trophy), Indian Board XI and India's frontline touring side. Hardly laughable. It makes a lot of sense to bring this up, since he's also gained some new-found bowling form over the past four years, in limited-overs cricket. We're now seeing Jadeja as a frontline Test all-rounder, with bowling ability no more than that of Yuvraj, and not even fractionally as good with the bat. If Yuvraj can last a season of FC cricket, he may, at the very least, replace Jadeja as the all-rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
    A little perspective required here. Yuvraj Singh has been stereotyped as an ODI/T20I specialist not good enough for Tests or FCs. Yet, if you dig up his domestic/FC stats, you'll find that while his average for Punjab is a modest 43 with six centuries, he seems to be a much better player for higher levels, short of Tests
    • North Zone (average 90, 7x100 of which 1x200)
    • Rest of India (average 63, 1x200)
    • India A (average 51, 1x100)
    • India Board XI (average 111, 1x100)
    • Even the Indian team's tour FC games (average 47, 1x100)

    So that's a combined average of 76.3 with eleven centuries, in 24 games for teams not Punjab (state side, lowest in FC) or India (where he's been in and out) and Yorkshire (a very dire 2003 season picked way before he was ready). These are not Ranji Trophy stats, but a combined figure of Duleep, Irani, India A (the kind that plays foreign reserves/futures, not the team from the silly Challenger Trophy), Indian Board XI and India's frontline touring side. Hardly laughable. It makes a lot of sense to bring this up, since he's also gained some new-found bowling form over the past four years, in limited-overs cricket. We're now seeing Jadeja as a frontline Test all-rounder, with bowling ability no more than that of Yuvraj, and not even fractionally as good with the bat. If Yuvraj can last a season of FC cricket, he may, at the very least, replace Jadeja as the all-rounder.

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    But still, I will love Yuvraj to be back in form and playing for India in all formats.. Very good player and can provide some experience to the middle order as well as all round ability..

    Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Bhuvaneshwar, Yadav, Ishant could be the team for India once Sachin goes..

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